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Samantha’s Stage 4 HER2 Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer Story

Samantha’s Stage 4 HER2-Lung Cancer Story

Interviewed by: Stephanie Chuang
Edited by: Katrina Villareal

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At 37, Samantha was diagnosed with HER2 non-small cell lung cancer. Her symptoms started with a cough and chest pressure, so she went to urgent care. A cancer diagnosis was one thing, but a lung cancer diagnosis with no smoking history was mind-numbing to her. This is Samantha’s story of navigating a lung cancer diagnosis young and discovering a rare biomarker too.


  • Name: Samantha M.
  • Age at Diagnosis:
    • 37
  • Diagnosis:
    • Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer (NSCLC)
  • Staging:
    • Stage 4
  • Mutation:
    • HER2
  • Symptoms:
    • Persistent cough
    • Chest pressure
    • Fatigue
    • Weight loss
  • Treatments:
    • Chemotherapy
    • Immunotherapy
Samantha M.

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This interview has been edited for clarity and length. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider for treatment decisions.



I went on a women’s trip in March 2024. When I came back from the trip, I developed a cough and noticed some pressure on my chest.

Introduction

I was born in California, raised in Hong Kong and the UK, and went back to the US around 12 years ago. I’m an active, outdoor adventurer. I love hiking, backpacking, camping, and anything to do with nature and being outside.

My husband Justin and I have been married for seven years. He is my absolute world and soulmate. I also have a nine-year-old German Shepherd.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.

Pre-diagnosis

Initial Symptoms

I went on a women’s trip in March 2024. There were 20 of us going on this adventure together even though I had never met them before. We were going to travel to India for 10 days. Before the trip, everything felt completely normal.

When I came back from the trip, I developed a cough and noticed some pressure on my chest. The air is not the best in India. A lot of people developed a cough, so I didn’t think anything of it, but the chest pressure was bothering me.

Two weeks after my trip, I was still hiking 4 to 5 miles a day, but there was a lot of pressure going on. I went to urgent care where a doctor listened to my chest and said, “Let’s do a chest X-ray to see what’s going on.”

The results showed that my entire left lung was full of fluid and fully collapsed. He said, “You need to go to the emergency room immediately.” I was still very naive then, thinking it was something I contracted from my trip.

They said, ‘We had a chance to look at a biopsy of one of the lesions in your liver and the fluid in your lungs, and it’s looking to be more and more like cancer.’

Diagnosis

Getting a Cancer Diagnosis

I went to the emergency room and they admitted me right away. They put in a chest tube, which was not a pleasant experience, and ended up draining 3 liters of fluid from my lung. They took that off for testing and did multiple CT scans. Even though I was admitted to the hospital, I was getting information about my scans through the apps. My result came through before the doctor even spoke to me. It said multiple lesions on the liver and lungs.

The infectious disease doctor came in and started asking me a ton of questions. They thought I might have tuberculosis because I’d lived and traveled to a lot of foreign countries, so they were very confused and running tons of tests.

Unfortunately, on day three of the hospital admission, they said, “We had a chance to look at a biopsy of one of the lesions in your liver and the fluid in your lungs, and it’s looking to be more and more like cancer.” They couldn’t give me a guarantee at that point, but this was looking like it. They said, “We’re going to discharge you. We’ll wait for confirmation, but we’re lining up an oncology appointment for you right away.” That’s when my world spiraled.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.
Playing the Waiting Game

We were living in Missoula, Montana, where my husband was stationed. The wait for the general oncologist was two weeks. There was no specialist there. After all, it was such a small town. That period was awful. It was confirmed through the app that I did have cancer, but I had no doctor to bounce anything off or ask questions.

At that point, it didn’t say what stage I was, and not being too familiar, I didn’t know what stage 1 versus stage 4 meant. I had no idea. I didn’t know anything other than I had non-small cell lung cancer.

I was spiraling on Google, which is not your best friend at this time of diagnosis. I figured out I was stage 4 and learned the five-year survival rate. I was doing more digging and came across mutations all this information on mutations.

I was eventually diagnosed with HER2 mutation, which was one I had never heard of.

When I went into that initial oncology visit, I had a list of questions, but the number one was if I could get a biomarker test for genetic mutations. He said, “Absolutely. It was on my list. You’re good because I know a lot of oncologists in these smaller towns are still not aware of these biomarker testing and treat lung cancer when someone could have a targetable mutation.”

I learned a lot about mutations during that two-week waiting period. I was eventually diagnosed with HER2 mutation, which was one I had never heard of. I didn’t come across it on any websites. It was a two-week window of the unknown with the fear and concern that I didn’t have long to live.

At my first oncology appointment in Missoula, he told me that I was stage 4, I was terminal, and had nine months to live. He told me before he even knew what mutation I had. No one should be told how long they have to live like that. It doesn’t help anyone. It set my mind back a long way. It was devastating.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.
Reaction to the Diagnosis

My husband, who was a 19-year veteran at this point, used to be a combat medic in Iraq and Afghanistan, so he’s seen a lot and I had never seen him cry ever. When I got that diagnosis in Missoula, he went outside the hospital and broke down. That was hard to see and almost harder for me than receiving the news personally. We’re so young. It was heartbreaking because he’s my soulmate. Knowing that I’m not going to be around and be with him when we’re 80 years old is gut-wrenching.

It hit him hard. He’s been an incredible caregiver. He’s been to every single appointment. He now handles the app for me and looks at all of my results. He’s been exceptionally supportive. I couldn’t ask for a better caregiver, but I would say it’s probably had more of an impact on him than on me.

Honestly, I had a breakdown… I thought that was the end of my journey because there was no primary targeted treatment for HER2.

Seeing a Lung Cancer Specialist

My husband said, “We’ll see this oncologist here, but let’s get you to a research hospital. Let’s see if the army will move us.” Within a month, the army approved the move. We were 45 minutes away from the Huntsman Cancer Institute. They have been so supportive and my work has also been so supportive.

I’m very grateful because I know a lot of people are not in that situation, especially those who are young, have cancer, and work full-time jobs. We put our house up for sale and within a month of my diagnosis, we had fully moved to be settled and to see a lung oncologist in Salt Lake City.

I learned to advocate for myself constantly. I was pretty forceful in messaging the Huntsman saying, “I need to get in as soon as possible. The general oncologist referred me. This is their letter.”

Samantha M.
Samantha M.

I was fortunate to get the best thoracic oncologist at the Huntsman. They looked at my chart and saw the severity of my stage 4 diagnosis. They got me in very quickly and wanted to redo my scans. They did a CT scan and a PET scan, which I hadn’t had at that point. They said, “We’re sending biomarker testing off the blood and also take a sample from Missoula and submit that as a tissue sample.”

They didn’t want to start any treatment until my biomarker test results came back, which took about two weeks. Meanwhile, my lung was continuing to fill up with fluid, so I had to get drained regularly. I was still active and nothing was stopping me. I was hiking at 10,000-foot elevation and I had no issues, but I felt very, very tired.

My biomarker test results came back and said HER2. I had never heard of HER2 in my life. I thought, “What on earth is this? What am I going to do with this?”

Honestly, I had a breakdown because I had been part of groups that talked about EGFR and ALK, all these great drugs, and people doing so well as young people on these targeted therapies. I said, “This is it. I keep on getting hit over and over again with bad luck and this is the final straw.” I thought that was the end of my journey because there was no primary targeted treatment for HER2.

Learning About the HER2 Biomarker

I started researching on Google, which wasn’t the best idea because when you search lung cancer and HER2, it says you do not have a very good prognosis at all and that wasn’t what I wanted to hear. That and not seeing anything about a primary targeted therapy was heartbreaking.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.
Finding Hope While Learning from Other Patients’ Experiences

I was introduced to someone who is part of an exon 20 group. I spoke to her within 24 hours of knowing that I had HER2 and she spent about an hour explaining everything: what was on the horizon as far as treatment was concerned, what was currently under clinical trials, and all of this hope.

I went from absolute turmoil, thinking this was literally the end, and that I have the worst prognosis to there could actually be some hope here and that changed my entire attitude. A lot of HER2 patients, when they find out about their mutation, aren’t told about the hope. They aren’t told about what’s coming. People have no idea unless they’re educated by other people.

I wanted to start treatment, so we decided on traditional chemo and immunotherapy and started that within a week.

Treatment

Treatment Options for HER2 Mutation

My oncologist is incredible. He called me right away and said, “Look. This isn’t what I was expecting either, but this is what we have.” He was trying to find silver linings. He said, “You have to come in every three weeks to get treatment, but your mutation works with immunotherapy. Your mutation can work with traditional chemo.” He was giving me some hope and that’s all I needed to hear.

He wasn’t an expert in HER2. I don’t think he has any other HER2 patients, but I was also fortunate because my coworker’s husband’s best friend is a HER2 expert and he’s been an incredible resource who I can text and get information or reassurance. Having those two resources has been invaluable.

My oncologist laid out what chemotherapy and immunotherapy I would be on. He also offered up a clinical trial, which split chemo and immunotherapy separately by a week, instead of combining them for a couple of rounds. He thought that I would be a good candidate.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.

Meanwhile, the HER2 expert who I was talking to was telling me about an amazing clinical trial for a drug for HER2 that was looking for people who had not been treated yet. My oncologist didn’t know about that trial, so I brought it up with him and he was kind enough to look into the research, look into the statistics, and weigh the options for me.

He said, “At the end of the day, it’s up to you which one you would like to proceed with, but here are my thoughts.” He was leaning towards traditional chemo and immunotherapy because immunotherapy had foundational success in the long run. The clinical trial was still in its early days in knowing what the outcome would be in the long term.

I also didn’t want to wait. Joining a clinical trial in another hospital involved flying, getting scans again, etc. I wanted to start treatment, so we decided on traditional chemo and immunotherapy and started that within a week.

As weird as it is to say this as a stage 4 cancer patient, chemotherapy and immunotherapy can do wonders.

Response to Treatment

I was responding extremely well and I’m very fortunate that I don’t have that many side effects at all. I have a couple of days of low energy, but other than that, I have been able to live my life, hike, and work.

I spoke to my husband and as weird as it is to say this as a stage 4 cancer patient, chemotherapy and immunotherapy can do wonders. There’s a horrible misconception that chemo and immunotherapy are awful and they don’t do anything. I get very upset about that because it has changed my life and has done amazing things for my body. I haven’t felt this well in years.

Looking back, even though I didn’t have very apparent symptoms, I was tired all the time. I would take naps during the day. I would be exhausted after 10 hours of sleep. I lost five pounds when I’ve never lost weight in my life. There were very subtle signs and if you look at pictures of me, I didn’t look well.

I’m feeling great right now. It’s like a double-edged sword because I have stage 4 cancer, but the chemo and immunotherapy are reducing my cancer burden so much that I feel like normal Samantha again.

Samantha M.
Samantha M.

Having Hope with a HER2 Biomarker

There’s a lot of hope. A HER2 mutation is not an immediate death sentence by any means. We don’t have a targeted therapy right now but that doesn’t mean it’s the end of the line. There are options out there.

Knowing that there are targeted therapies coming out very soon through clinical trials with statistics that show that they work exceptionally well is invaluable.

There’s a lot of hope. A HER2 mutation is not an immediate death sentence by any means.

Words of Advice

You see online that if you eat healthy and you exercise, there’s a very low chance you’re going to get cancer and I don’t like that at all. It makes me very angry and very upset because that makes people who are fit and healthy and doing all the right things think that they’re not going to be touched by cancer.

People must be aware that cancer does not discriminate. It doesn’t care if you’re fit and healthy. It will be in whoever it wants to be and that’s a fact.

Listen to your body. Be in touch with changes. If you have a lump, if you have a weird cough that has continued for months, if you have a weird mole that you’re not sure about, don’t wait.

If your gut is telling you something is wrong and your doctor says it’s fine and not to worry about it, get a second opinion. Push and be that person and get the answers you need to get. You have to advocate for yourself.

Samantha M.

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Gigi’s Stage 1A, High-Grade Serous HER2+, PR+, ER- Endometrial Cancer Story

Interviewed by: Taylor Scheib
Edited by: Katrina Villareal

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Gigi’s initial symptoms included hiccup-like sensations behind her sternum, gastrointestinal issues, and spotting. An ultrasound showed a thickened endometrial lining, and a biopsy confirmed her diagnosis – endometrial cancer. A month later, she underwent a radical hysterectomy.

Initially, Gigi thought a hysterectomy would suffice, but further testing revealed a more serious condition. Her tumor had 25% mixed undifferentiated cells, placing her in the top 1-2% for her cancer type.

Although additional tests showed no spread of the cancer, her oncologist recommended chemotherapy. Gigi enrolled in a clinical trial, receiving six rounds of carboplatin and paclitaxel every three weeks.

Alongside chemotherapy, Gigi took dexamethasone, anti-nausea medication, antihistamines, and gabapentin. She found chemotherapy more manageable over time, despite side effects like facial redness, dry skin, nausea, bone pain, restless leg syndrome, neuropathy, and tinnitus. Fortunately, her blood work stayed stable, allowing continuous treatment without delays.

Gigi adopted a plant-based, low-inflammatory diet and explored alternative therapies to support her body during treatment. She now has CT scans every nine weeks and follow-ups with labs every 12 weeks.

Inspired by resilient patients, Gigi actively participates in her care and treatment decisions, collaborating with respected care providers, asking tough questions, and balancing being well-informed with learning to let go.


  • Name: Gigi D.
  • Diagnosis:
    • Endometrial Cancer
    • HER2+
    • PR+
    • ER-
  • Staging:
    • 1A High-Grade Serous
  • Initial Symptoms:
    • Hiccup-like sensations behind the sternum
    • Gastrointestinal issues
    • Spotting
  • Treatment:
    • Clinical trial: chemotherapy (carboplatin and paclitaxel)
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Samantha’s Stage 4 ER+ PR+ HER2+ IDC Breast Cancer Story

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Interviewed by: Taylor Scheib
Edited by: Katrina Villareal

Samantha L.

Samantha’s journey with stage 4 breast cancer began in March 2019 when she was 22. Living in Virginia with her husband and young daughter, she first noticed a lump in her breast. Initially dismissed by her primary care physician and an ultrasound tech as an infection, a biopsy eventually confirmed her cancer diagnosis. Despite the initial belief that her cancer was at stage 1, further tests revealed it had spread, making it stage 4 breast cancer.

Her treatment plan involved chemotherapy, which she had to stop early due to severe neuropathy, followed by a lumpectomy, radiation, hormone therapy, and targeted therapy. Despite significant side effects, she managed to maintain no evidence of disease (NED) for some time. After two years of hormone therapy, Samantha decided to take a break to try for a baby, which led to a successful pregnancy in April 2022.

However, during her pregnancy, she and her family moved to Alaska. While there, Samantha’s cancer recurred, causing severe back pain due to lesions in her spine and pelvis. Unable to travel back to Virginia without stabilizing her spine, she underwent surgery and later radiation before returning to her oncologist for a new treatment plan. She joined a clinical trial involving a new radium drug for bone metastases but had to leave it due to mixed results.

Samantha then resumed hormone therapy and targeted therapy with different drugs than before. Throughout her treatment, she emphasized the importance of careful decision-making, the support of her family, and maintaining a positive outlook.


  • Name: Samantha L.
  • Diagnosis:
    • Breast Cancer
    • Invasive ductal carcinoma (IDC)
    • ER+
    • PR+
    • HER2+
  • Staging:
    • Stage 4
  • Initial Symptom:
    • Lump in breast
  • Treatment:
    • Chemotherapy
    • Surgeries: Surgery: lumpectomy, spinal surgery (fractured vertebrae)
    • Radiation
    • Hormone therapy: anastrozole & letrozole
    • Targeted therapy: abemaciclib & ribociclib
Samantha L.

This interview has been edited for clarity. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider for treatment decisions.



I went to my regular doctor who said it was nothing. I was so young that it couldn’t be breast cancer.

Introduction

My husband and I live in Virginia and have a 1-½-year old daughter. I was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer at 22 in March 2019.

Pre-diagnosis

Initial Symptoms

It was the day after Valentine’s Day. My husband and I weren’t married yet. He was my boyfriend at the time. My mom loves to celebrate Valentine’s with the family. The celebration had ended and we were watching TV. He hugged me from behind and squeezed me tight. When he did, I felt some pain in my left breast. I realized there was a lump.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.
PCP Appointment

I went to my regular doctor who said it was nothing. I was so young that it couldn’t be breast cancer. They told me to put a warm compress on it, but that didn’t do anything. They put me on antibiotics thinking it was an infection and, of course, that didn’t help.

They finally sent me for an ultrasound and the ultrasound tech looked at it and said, “This looks like an infection. You’re 22 and I’ve never seen breast cancer in a 22-year-old, so that’s not what it is. But just in case, you can get a biopsy if you want.”

Getting a Biopsy

I almost left the hospital and went home without doing anything about it. He said it wasn’t urgent, but there was an opening so I got the biopsy done.

When you’re 22 and recently graduated college, cancer is not on your mind at all.

Diagnosis

Biopsy Results

The results revealed abnormal cells, so I had to go in for a second biopsy. That was the one that told us that I had breast cancer.

Reaction to the Diagnosis

When you’re 22 and recently graduated college, cancer is not on your mind at all.

My breast surgeon called me on the day the abnormal cells came back and said, “You need to come in again.” I went in and that’s when she started to prepare me that it could be cancer. She ended up calling me when she found out that it was.

She told me she cleared out an appointment for me at the end of the day and that we should get more information about the hormone receptors at that point. She scheduled an appointment so that I could talk to my family and get all of our questions written down before the appointment.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

Treatment

Discussing the Treatment Plan

I didn’t know anything. I thought it was stage 1. I went through it in stages, always thinking that it was the least concerning thing. I don’t think there’s a big shock. It came about over time as we had more questions and learned more about it.

She was suspicious right when I walked in. She wanted to check the lymph nodes under my arm because that’s the first place cancer spreads. My boyfriend, my parents, and a friend who’s a doctor came to the appointment with me. They all had questions and wanted to help me and know everything. They went into a separate room and she took me back and did the biopsy under my arm.

When we went back, she laid out a plan. It was March and she said we should be done with all active treatment by Christmas. She said the standard is chemotherapy and then surgery, which was going to be a lumpectomy or a mastectomy, and then radiation. Since my cancer was hormone-positive, I would be on hormone therapy for some years after.

The spot was more contained. They said it was probably cancer because the chemo shrunk it. Then we realized I was stage 4 breast cancer.

Chemotherapy

There were a few hiccups. I had to stop chemo early because Taxol (paclitaxel) was causing neuropathy in my fingers. It got too bad and my oncologist didn’t want permanent nerve damage to happen. I was a little bummed about stopping Taxol early because it made me feel like I wasn’t doing everything that I could, but it’s what happens when your side effects get too bad.

Originally, all of my doctors wanted me to do a double mastectomy because I was young. Younger women tend to choose a double mastectomy because it gives people peace of mind to make sure all of the breast tissue is removed and there’s no place for cancer to grow.

I had a scan where they saw a spot in one of my ribs. They weren’t positive it was cancer and it was in a weird location that they wouldn’t be able to biopsy it. We talked to neurosurgeons about removing it, but we weren’t sure if it was cancer.

When I had chemo and scans again, the spot was more contained. They said it was probably cancer because the chemo shrunk it. Then we realized I was stage 4 breast cancer.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.
Lumpectomy

At this point, mastectomy isn’t going to matter too much because the cancer has already spread past the breasts. If I do a lumpectomy, the recovery time is shorter so I could get started with radiation immediately after. They wanted to do radiation on the rib to target the spot that was seen in the scan since it couldn’t be removed with surgery.

I ended up doing a lumpectomy, which is weird because when you think about cancer when you don’t have it, you think you’d do the most drastic option possible. But when you’re faced with your options, you’re not always picking that for yourself and your situation.

Radiation

After the lumpectomy, I did radiation and finished that in November.

My case wasn’t as bad of a stage 4 breast cancer case, so we were hopeful that I was cured at that point and that getting pregnant would be fine.

Hormone Therapy & Targeted Therapy

I started hormone therapy and targeted therapy after radiation and did that for two years. Since I had radiation on that tiny spot on my rib, I had no evidence of disease (NED) on scans.

I was having a lot of side effects with hormone therapy and targeted therapy. Being NED for so long, I didn’t even know if these therapies were doing anything or just making me miserable. It was causing a lot of physical and mental side effects that were the hardest time in my life so far. Way harder than chemo, radiation, and the rest of it.

I wanted to stop early. My oncologist wanted me to get to three years, but I could only make it two.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

Fertility Post-Treatment

I wanted to try having a baby so I asked him. He cited some recent studies about women who had breast cancer, stopped hormone therapy after two years, took a break, got pregnant, and then went back on treatment. The chances of their cancer reoccurring didn’t increase. Some people had their cancer come back and some people didn’t, but getting pregnant didn’t affect that.

However, the study was for stage 3 and below and not stage 4 breast cancer. Since I only had a tiny spot of cancer and it wasn’t in multiple places throughout my body, my case wasn’t as bad of a stage 4 breast cancer case, so we were hopeful that I was cured at that point and that getting pregnant would be fine.

I got off hormone therapy and targeted therapy. I started in November 2019 and ended in October 2021. I wasn’t having periods the whole time and then my cycles returned to normal. I felt amazing. I think it was because I wasn’t on hormones anymore. Then I got pregnant in April 2022.

You can’t let the fear of cancer coming back control your life. You can’t make every decision based on whether your cancer comes back or not.

Pregnancy was great. I still had all of the same pregnancy side effects, like nausea, but I was so used to being nauseous from treatment that it didn’t affect me. I just felt good that I wasn’t on medication. There were lingering side effects from both chemotherapy and targeted therapy. I still have hot and cold sensitivity in my fingers, toes, ears, and teeth. I have dry eyes.

It can be difficult because people don’t want their cancer to come back. They don’t want their child to be left without a mother. That’s the main worry people have. My philosophy on it is that you’re not a statistic. You don’t know what could happen in your life and you can’t let the fear of cancer coming back control your life. You can’t make every decision based on whether your cancer comes back or not.

If I can, then I will. If I feel good, then I’m going to do this or that. It’s not a decision that I made easily. My husband and I talked through it and we spoke to our doctor about it. We did what was best for him and what was best for our family specifically. It’s not for everybody. You have to figure it out for yourself.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

There are all these medical questions that you need to ask your doctor, but it can be a good thing and possible. There’s a lot of new research coming out. You don’t have to be afraid of having hormones in your body after having hormone-positive cancer.

Moving to Alaska

In the middle of my pregnancy, we moved to Alaska, so we were away from my oncologist for a while. I was still keeping in touch with him, but we were hopeful that I was cured since I had scans that showed no evidence of disease for so long after my daughter was born. I was breastfeeding, so we didn’t do a lot of monitoring because I was still feeling good and there were no new symptoms.

Several lesions throughout my spine and pelvis were found on the MRI.

Cancer Recurs

We were on a mountain one day taking family photos when I collapsed to the ground. My back hurt so bad that I couldn’t get up. Five guys had to carry me to the car. I went to the ER that day and eventually had a scan. The results showed a fracture in my spine because there was cancer growing in it, crushing the vertebrae, and causing the pain. Several lesions throughout my spine and pelvis were found on the MRI as well.

I couldn’t get on a plane to fly back to Virginia because they were worried that if something shifted, I could be paralyzed, so I needed to have surgery to stabilize my spine before moving back. We couldn’t even think about treating the cancer until that happened. It was scary because we weren’t doing anything to address the cancer.

I had surgery in the middle of August followed by a very painful recovery. I was already in a lot of pain beforehand, but I needed two weeks of recovery. When we got to Virginia, I met with my oncologist and came up with a new plan.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

New Treatment Plan

They thought I needed radiation on the vertebra that had the fracture because there were other spots throughout my spine and pelvis, but that was the biggest and causing the most problems. We did three rounds of radiation on that first.

My oncologist knew that hormone therapy and targeted therapy made me miserable, so he gave me three options. He said I could go on hormone-targeted therapy, I could take a chemo pill called Xeloda (capecitabine), or I could get on a clinical trial.

I couldn’t start the trial until 14 days after my last radiation, so for two weeks, I wasn’t doing anything and I could feel things getting worse.

Joining the Clinical Trial

He was excited about the clinical trial because it used a new radium drug targeting bone metastases. It was already an approved treatment for prostate cancer with lots of success and this trial was testing it on metastatic breast cancer patients. We went with that because he said it could eliminate what’s in my bones.

The problem was that I didn’t know which group I would be in. They were going to tell me, but I was either going to be in the group getting chemo or in the group getting chemo and the radium drug.

That was a stressful time because there was a period when I had to wait to get approved for the trial. I couldn’t start the trial until 14 days after my last radiation, so for two weeks, I wasn’t doing anything and I could feel things getting worse.

I ended up in the radium arm of the trial, which was good, and I did that for a while. It helped with my pain a lot and decreased some of the markers in my body.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

I ended up having to go off the trial because my scan showed mixed results. Some areas were better, but some areas were worse. I think it’s because my original scan was in September and not right before I started the trial. There was that two-week period when things got worse, but there’s no way of knowing if that was it or not.

Hormone Therapy & Targeted Therapy

After the trial, I talked with my husband and my family and decided that I was going to give hormone therapy and targeted therapy another try. My oncologist recommended trying a different drug than what I was on before, so that’s what I’m doing now. I’m on anastrozole and abemaciclib, which is slightly different from the letrozole and ribociclib that I did in 2019.

The whole point of stage 4 treatment is to find a treatment that you can tolerate for the rest of your life.

Treatment Decision-Making

People don’t realize how much thought is put into treatment-decision making. You think about it for days, weeks, and months, talking it through and talking to doctors. I think that experience was good because it led me to my decision and made me realize that I’m exactly where I should be.

Having a Strong Support System

I have a supportive husband and family who help talk through things with me. I think about things a lot, pray all the time, and try to get the wisdom to make all these decisions in a way that’s going to be the best for myself, my husband, and my daughter.

It’s not just about patience. It takes a lot of work and it’s not something that you make a split-second decision about. There’s a lot of thinking and praying.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

The whole point of stage 4 breast cancer treatment is to find a treatment that you can tolerate for the rest of your life. When we went to a new center, found out all the information, and talked with my oncologist more about whether this was realistically going to be the best option for me, that’s what made us think that this is what’s going to be good.

It wasn’t just me. My husband was so afraid of me being on it again. He knew how much I suffered when I was on it. It affects both of us. Going on it for the second time around was nice. It was working better. I don’t know if it’s because I went through a pregnancy, I’m older, it’s a different drug than before, or if I have a different mental attitude towards it.

If I didn’t have a baby who was so dependent on me, I don’t think I would’ve even considered going back on hormone therapy.

Everything happens for a reason. Some people thought it was a dumb decision for me to get pregnant, but having her is what made me do this treatment in the first place. If I didn’t have a baby who was so dependent on me, I don’t think I would’ve even considered going back on hormone therapy. I would’ve done the chemo pill. It could have worked, but it could not have worked. Having her around gave me this huge drive to live for as long as possible. It’s what made me even try it again in the first place. I wouldn’t have even known that it would be better this time around.

A cancer diagnosis is harder on the family than on the person going through it. Your family loves you. A lot of family members feel like they’re being pushed away and that they’re not wanted. My instinct is to do that because I don’t want to put a burden on them. But at the end of the day, it’s important that they’re there. The best thing that a family member can do is be there and listen. What to say and do is going to be different for everybody, but being there is a good place to start.

Samantha L.
Samantha L.

Words of Advice

Don’t wait. If you want to do something, do it. You never know when your life is going to dramatically change. I didn’t realize how much I enjoyed picking up my baby and rocking her to sleep then all of a sudden, it’s taken away from me.

When we moved to Alaska, people asked why we were going. We had an opportunity, so we’re going to move to Alaska for a year. We probably could never do that again because now I need all this treatment so I’m back in Virginia where my original team is.

If you want to do something, do it while you can because you never know when you’re physically not going to be able to do it.

Don’t wait. If you want to do something, do it. You never know when your life is going to dramatically change.


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