Veronica’s Refractory Ph- B-Cell Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia Story

Veronica was diagnosed with B-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia (ALL), Philadelphia chromosome-negative, all while pregnant with her baby. Thankfully, she was able to deliver a healthy baby girl!

In her story, she shares the experience of navigating chemo, surgery, and a double cord transplant. She also highlights quality of life issues like being her own advocate, dealing with financial toxicity, and how the leukemia diagnosis impacted her relationships, including marriage. Thanks for sharing your story, Veronica!

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This interview has been edited for clarity. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider for treatment decisions.

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I went in and repeated the labs. I noticed that they were slightly different than the labs I had originally done, but they said it was nothing to worry about.

Waiting for answers

I didn’t hear from them again for another few weeks. I figured nothing was wrong. About 3 weeks later, I got another call asking me to repeat one more set of labs again.

At that point, I was starting to get really concerned. I asked her if I should be, and she said no. I left work, and I went to go pick up the lab slip at the office. I demanded to speak to somebody because no one was telling me anything.

The front desk lady went to talk to someone, came back, and said I just needed to do the labs and hopefully I’d hear something the next day. The lab tech who was back there with me told me I wouldn’t actually get my results for another 3 to 4 days. I went back to work super nervous.

I called human resources to get my own labs back so I could see what was going on. A couple of days went by, and I followed up with them again. They kept telling me that my labs weren’t in yet. I kept calling and calling.

Finally, I was in the middle of a midterm when I checked my email and saw my lab results. It was a leukemia test that I had tested positive for.

I was in tears, and I left class. I called my doctor’s office, and they said they still didn’t have my results. I said, ‘No, I have my lab results. I need to speak to somebody right now.’

The girl asked me how I had my results, and I told her since nobody was telling me anything, I got my own medical records. She put me on hold, and about 20 minutes later, a nurse practitioner got on the line.

She said they had been reviewing my labs over the last month and hadn’t wanted to scare if there was nothing to worry about.

She also said she had forwarded my medical records to Stanford, and I needed to wait for them to call me back. Then my OB called me a few days later and said she spoke with the director of oncology at Stanford, and they wanted me to go to the ER to be admitted.

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Processing the diagnosis

I was afraid. I was pregnant with my first baby. I was so scared. My mom passed away from stage 4 colon cancer in 2011, so I was just really afraid. I didn’t know what to do.

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How did you tell your loved ones about the diagnosis?

I immediately called my husband. I had not felt well that day, so I had my husband drive me to class. When I saw the email, I called him. He came and picked me up. We sat in the car, and I told him what I found out.

He read it himself, and we both cried. He’s a nurse in the emergency department where we live, so he knew right away what was going on.

We drove home, and I talked to my employer. We told them the news, and we took care of all of that. We went to HR and told them I was going to be on leave.

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What happened when you got to the ER?

Upon getting there, they asked me what my symptoms were and how I knew my diagnosis. Apparently, my records hadn’t been sent over to them yet. Thankfully, I had my own medical records on my email and could forward them to them from my cell phone while there in the hospital. 

They were really crowded when I got there, so I spent the night in the ER. The next morning, they transferred me to a different unit with a bed before finally transferring me to the oncology unit a few hours later. 

Figuring out treatment around the pregnancy

After the bone marrow biopsy, I was scheduled to have my PICC line put in. After that, they brought in all my teams. Not only did I have leukemia, but I was also pregnant, so I spoke with my high-risk OB team.

Originally, they had told me I needed to terminate to better my options, but I didn’t want to do that.

My oncology and OB team worked together to come up with a plan. They discussed everything with me, and then we started treatment the next day.

Knowing that, it’s hard to think that they wanted me to terminate. I told my oncologist that I wanted to keep the baby, and she talked to my OB team. They assessed the risk, and the main things to watch for were small birth weight and stillbirth.

We already knew that she would be born small because they planned on inducing me at 33 weeks to prepare for my transplant, and the risks were worth it to us to have her.

We just went ahead and did it, and once that’s what we decided, my medical team was fully supportive. 

Describe the chemo side effects

From what I remember, it wasn’t too bad. I expected so many side effects. I watched my mom go through chemo, and everything that could’ve gone wrong in her situation did.

That’s what I was expecting for me, but it really wasn’t that bad. I didn’t experience that many side effects. 

What was the Blincyto like?

It’s a 28-day cycle, and it’s a continuous thing. I had a fanny pack that was connected to me for 24 hours a day. When the bags would run out, I changed them.

I did that for 28 days, and that’s what ultimately got me into remission. 

Why was an autologous stem cell transplant not an option?

They didn’t want to risk waiting on the retrieval process and the precautions I would have to take beforehand.

They figured the best option to keep me in remission would be a transplant, so they wanted to get it going quickly. 

Learning more about the double cord transplant

I was admitted on day 7 into the hospital. I had 3 days of intense chemotherapy, followed by a break for one day, and then I had full body radiation twice a day for 4 days.

I had reached out to a girl on Instagram when I was first diagnosed. She had her transplant at Stanford, too. We immediately became good friends. She was my resource when I was going through the process. Google isn’t really your best friend, so it was nice to talk to her. 

Radiation before the transplant

She had one day of radiation therapy, and she told me it was the worst part for her. I had 4 days, so hearing that was kind of scary for me. I was afraid. I didn’t know what to expect, but it really wasn’t that bad.

I didn’t feel anything during the radiation. I was tired afterwards, but during the actual event, I didn’t have any pain or anything. My anxiety did spike up a little while it was happening just because it was a dark room, and I couldn’t move.

Reality slapped me in the face. That was an emotional part for me, but the radiation itself wasn’t bad. 

Describe the actual double cord transplant

The actual transplant was actually very uneventful. It was a big deal going into it because when you read the pamphlet, you’re ingesting all this information, but the transplant itself was very anticlimactic.

It felt like just another blood transfusion. It looked like one, too. It didn’t take very long. It was a very very uneventful day. 

How was the recovery from the transplant?

With cord cells, the time it takes to engraft is longer than with a standard bone marrow transplant. I was in the hospital for 2 months before I started to engraft.

Describe the side effects after transplant

I experienced some mucositis about a week after the transplant. I’m not sure if it was from the chemo or what. I had nausea and fatigue. I also broke out in a full body rash.

It wasn’t itchy or uncomfortable at all, but it looked horrible. It was from head to toe and even in my eyes. They weren’t sure if it was graft vs. host (GVHD) or an allergic reaction.

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I met with a dermatology team and did skin biopsies. Those were inconclusive. They changed the antibiotics I was on, and they gave me lotions just in case it was graft vs. host. They weren’t really sure what caused it. It was a pretty wicked rash. 

Quality of Life

What is your monitoring schedule like now?

It went from daily to a couple of times a week, and so on. Now we’ve trickled down to once every 3 months. Once every 3 months, I go in and get labs to ensure that I’m still in remission. They do regular labs, and then they do some special labs that come in a kit. It’s a test that detects small amounts of cancer in your blood.

Do you ever experience “scanxiety“?

I don’t think you ever get used to getting scans or tests or anything. Any and every day sometimes, I’m nervous about it. If I’m not feeling well or if I have an ache, I freak out.

If I have a bruise, I drive myself crazy trying to figure out where it might’ve come from. The anxiety is something that has never gone away.

Anything can trigger the fear of relapse. Every single day. I can’t let it consume me, but I definitely have my fears.

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Was there talk about fertility after chemotherapy?

I’ve talked to 2 gynecologists since because my last period was after my transplant. I had one period right on time, but I haven’t had one since.

They’re saying I’m probably post-menopause by now. More than likely, I won’t be able to have more children because of all the chemo and radiation I went through.

It was liberating to shave it. I wasn’t as attached to it as some people might be. Hair can be a huge thing, but for me, the most important thing at that point was and still is my daughter.

If hair loss was part of the cycle, I was ready for it. I wasn’t as emotional about my hair as I thought I would be.

I used to cry when I asked for a trim and got more off than I expected. This time around, it wasn’t as big of a deal.

It was more liberating than anything.

It was more depressing for me to wake up with hair on my pillow than for me to just go ahead and get rid of it. 

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Do you have any advice for someone who’s about to lose their hair?

If anything, I would say if you can handle it, go ahead and shave it. It’s the one thing you can control. When you’re thrown into the cancer world, you usually just have to go through with what the doctors tell you is best, but you can decide when and how to lose your hair. 

Knowing that hair loss is a potential circumstance, if you want some control, go ahead and shave it. 

What got you through the lowest points?

As hard as it was, my daughter kept me going. I was there physically, but I couldn’t spend real time with her other than lying on the floor with her. She was still such a good kid.

Kids cry, and kids do all these things, but surprisingly she just laid there with me happily even though she had her own little issues. She kept me going through it all. 

How important was it for you to have caregivers and a support system?

It’s so incredibly important. I couldn’t have done this without them. You definitely need someone there to support you. There was a point where I could barely get up.

They had to help me get in and out of the shower, which is something I never thought I would get help with. I’m a very independent person. 

They played a very important role for me. I know some people might not have a situation like mine. Thankfully, I have a very supportive family.

Between my family and my husband’s family, they helped me through a lot. There were some days where my in-laws were the ones watching my daughter while I was unable to do anything. 

It would’ve been impossible to do this without them.

It can be hard to ask for help. How did you do it?

I just had to accept that I needed the help. Having to do that was something that I never thought I was going to need to do. With how sick I was, though, there’s just no way I could’ve done it on my own, and I just had to accept that. 

I couldn’t even stand or shower by myself for more than minutes. You just have to push pride aside and ask for help because it’s something you need. 

Being your own advocate

Nobody knows your body like you do. You have to speak up when something doesn’t feel right or you’re uncomfortable. You just have to learn how to speak up.

Doctors are human. They’re not always right. If you feel like there’s something else that could be done or something isn’t right, say something. A good doctor will listen. 

Jot things down before an appointment so you don’t have to wonder if you’ll remember them in the moment. Bring a friend or family member who is more bold and willing to ask questions on your behalf. One way or another, you or someone you love needs to stand up for you.

Social workers are a great resource, too. They always were helpful for us. They’re good at coordinating things for you. They helped arrange our housing situation, too. I didn’t know that was covered for us through insurance, and they were the ones that told us about that.

They are so resourceful. They can help you better understand and navigate the medical system, especially in terms of insurance and support and things like that.

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Can you talk more about the housing program?

I didn’t know that there was a Ronald McDonald house and other facilities for my daughter’s situation so I didn’t have to go home and then drive back every day to see her. They had units at the hospital that were available, and you just had to talk to a social worker about it.

If you have a family member in the hospital, they have a unit that might be available for you. The Ronald McDonald house was free to stay near the hospital as well. 

With my transplant, they required that I stayed within 30 minutes of the hospital while I recovered just in case I had any complications. I didn’t have anyone in that area to stay with, so they put me up in an apartment complex that worked with the hospital. It was income-based, but most insurance companies cover that, too.

We paid daily to stay there for 3 months, but we got all of it back once we submitted the invoices to the insurance company.

Dealing with the financial toxicity of cancer treatment

It’s been hard with me not working especially. There is always a way, though. You can qualify for disability after being diagnosed with leukemia and being out of work. That would definitely help.

It’s an automatic qualification. That helped. The deductible is still ridiculous every year, but there are ways to alleviate it. We’re here, so we just deal with the financial stuff as we can.

The majority of the time I was in treatment, he would have to travel 4 hours each way, either taking Amtrak or driving just to go back. There were days he would leave right after work, come see me for a day or 2, and then drive right back. 

We spent a lot of time on the phone with one another, too. It really did make our relationship stronger, though. 

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How has cancer changed your life perspective?

I accept the way that things are now. There are things I used to be able to do that I can’t do now. I want to say that I never took life for granted, but it’s weird how much more you appreciate life after cancer.

I’m grateful for every single day that I wake up. Things could have been so much worse. This new normal may not be perfect, but I’ll take it all over death any day.

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