Categories
Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML) Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (AMML) Chemotherapy Leukemia Menin inhibitor Patient Stories Targeted Therapy Treatments

Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (AMML): Russ’s Clinical Trial Story

“A Clinical Trial Saved My Life”: Russ’s Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (Rare AML) Story

After 48 years of marriage, Russ was blindsided by Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (AMML), a rare diagnosis with few options. But a last-minute clinical trial offered a new path. Here is his story of love, surrender, and the “sweet spot” between faith and science.

Interviewed by: Taylor Scheib
Edited by: Katrina Villareal & Jeff Forslund

Russ’s story offers a view into the intersection of honesty, science, and hope. Diagnosed with acute myelomonocytic leukemia (AMML), a rare subtype of AML, after weeks of “just the flu” and crushing fatigue, Russ went from preparing for hospital discharge to learning he had cancer and being told he needed treatment that same night.

When he heard the word leukemia, he thought of death, yet in that moment, a surprising sense of peace set in as he focused on what it was and how to treat it.

The early days were chaotic though. Russ was turned away from one hospital because his insurance plan did not match their funding, forcing him and his family to pivot overnight to UCLA’s emergency department. There, amid what he describes as ground zero conditions in the ER, he endured hours on a hallway gurney, multiple tests, and a 12‑hour wait before finally being admitted to the oncology floor. Even as he grappled with a 7+3 chemotherapy regimen and spent 29 straight days in the hospital, he remembers mostly trying to protect his family as waves of shock rippled through them.​

Russ D. AMML

Behind the scenes, his primary care physician and his family were fierce advocates, pushing for answers and ultimately toward a newly developed clinical trial drug tied to his NPM1 mutation. Russ was too sick to participate in the decision, but his wife and adult children did the research and made the call to enroll him, a choice he says “saved my life.” He now calls himself the poster boy for the trial, still taking the pills daily and returning to UCLA for ongoing labs, doctor visits, and bone marrow biopsies.​

Today, Russ lives in deep remission and talks about inhabiting the sweet spot where faith and science intersect. He credits his family’s constant presence, the insight of his oncology team, and the existence of a trial drug that arrived just in time for him.

For others with AMML, he encourages surrendering to trusted clinicians, considering clinical trials seriously, learning about your biomarker, and allowing community, spirituality, and modern medicine to work together in the service of one more good day.​

Watch Russ’s video or read the transcript of his interview below to dive deep into his story:

  • How Russ’s acute myelomonocytic leukemia symptoms first looked like the flu
  • How insurance and hospital systems can create major obstacles, and the importance of having advocates who help navigate where to go next to change the course of care
  • Why clinical trials are not last-resort gambles—and how exploring them from the start is the reason he says he is alive.
  • How trusted loved ones and clinicians are essential partners in making sense of complex choices and next steps
  • Russ describes a profound transformation from shock and uncertainty to “deep, deep remission,” learning to live day by day in a balance of faith, science, and gratitude

  • Name: Russ D.
  • Age at Diagnosis:
    • 68
  • Diagnosis:
    • Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (AMML), a rare subtype of Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML)
  • Mutation:
    • NPM1
  • Symptoms:
    • Flu‑like symptoms
    • Profound fatigue
    • Blood pressure drop
    • Shortness of breath
  • Treatments:
    • Chemotherapy
    • Clinical trial drug: menin inhibitor
Russ D. AMML

Kura Oncology

Thank you to Kura Oncology for their support of our independent patient education program. The Patient Story retains full editorial control over all content.


This interview has been edited for clarity and length. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider to make informed treatment decisions.

The views and opinions expressed in this interview do not necessarily reflect those of The Patient Story.



Nancy and I met in a nightclub back in 1976… and we have been dancing for 48 years.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Who I Am

I’m probably most known for my passion for life. That extends to enjoying living, my family, music, and sports. I’m pretty passionate and can be moved by the things that I love and enjoy.

Our Love Story: Meeting My Wife in 1976

Nancy and I met in a nightclub back in 1976. I went to this nightclub with a buddy. I saw him dancing with a hot blonde while I was standing against the wall with a beer. I said, “Man, if he doesn’t ask her to dance again, I’m going to swoop in.” He went left, she went right, and I dashed right in and put my arm around her. I said, “Would you like to dance?” and we have been dancing for 48 years.

Russ D. AMML
Russ D. AMML

Knowing She was “The One” and the Secret to 48 Years of Marriage

I told her I loved her within two days. I was somewhat bitten by the “love at first sight” cliché, and it proved to be a good choice. We were engaged after two weeks.

Your love deepens as the years go on. It validates your early love, but then your ongoing love strengthens. It’s the recognition that you love her and you’re going to do what you need to do to keep that relationship going. That’s in light of mistakes, challenges, and difficulties, but also a lot of good times, a lot of laughter, and a lot of joyous living.

Your love deepens as the years go on. It validates your early love, but then your ongoing love strengthens.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Marriage Through Cancer: A Bond Forged in Suffering

My family all thought they were going to lose me, and I have a significant place in our family system. Never having gone through anything of this kind, it was such an emotional devastation to my wife and to my children. My wife stayed strong for my children. She was there for them, but she was there for me, too, and she was as determined as I was to see me well. We both felt like we had life to live.

I never winced once about having cancer. I never cried about it. I just said, “Okay, what have we got to do?” and my wife was the same, right there by me. Our love has deepened as a result of that. Love deepens if you allow it to, and our marriage and relationship are in one of the best places they have ever been in our lives. It is a bond created through suffering that is real and absolutely unbreakable.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Living with Fear, Gratitude, and “Self-Contained” Feelings Today

At times, I feel very self-contained. Not isolated, but within myself. I manage the fears and concerns, and I try to live and savor each day. At times, it is a little bit lonely because I want to be brave for my family and my wife. There are things I manage that I do not tell people about. If there were something really dire, I would. But there is this curiosity of a question: how long do I have?

I had a very rare form of leukemia with not a good prognosis, but here I am feeling as good as I could possibly feel. I am grateful for today. I will do the things today that I always do, and I will continue to beat the drum of being encouraging to others and being caring, seeing people, and being who I am. I definitely feel a bit inward and self-contained at times. It’s like nobody knows what I am going through but me. It’s a little tricky.

It is a bond created through suffering that is real and absolutely unbreakable.

Russ D., AMML Patient

My First Red Flags Before My Diagnosis

I had been at a local hospital for two other stays before I went to UCLA. We thought I had the flu. I was on the couch for a couple of days, but I wasn’t getting better. I had a lot of flu symptoms and fatigue. Then I had a real blood pressure drop, which was scary for both of us. We called our primary care physician and she said, “Go to the hospital.” I was in the hospital for the first stint. I’m sure I was a bit dehydrated. They gave me an IV, kept me under observation, ran some tests, and sent me home with no diagnosis.

Over the next three weeks, I knew something was wrong because I couldn’t walk from my car to my house without being exhausted. The fatigue factor was profound. I would lie on my wife’s lap and say, “I am so tired.” I was so down. My primary care physician had me take a blood test, and it came back with my white blood cells at about 40,000. She said, “Get right to the ER.” I went back, and they diagnosed me with acute myelomonocytic leukemia (AMML) at Providence. They diagnosed it, but they do not treat it. They told me I needed treatment that night.

I cannot tell you the sheer shock. It was surreal, but I felt this peace come over me that said, “Okay, we have to deal with this.” Meanwhile, it was like shock waves running through my family, and I was trying to maintain for them. The shock was real, but the main red flags had been flu-like symptoms and serious fatigue that ultimately led to the diagnosis.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

What We Thought During Those Three Weeks Before Diagnosis

We didn’t think it was anything like leukemia. We knew something was wrong, but because I had been largely healthy throughout my life, we thought, “There’s something, but we will take care of it.” There was an optimism. It never dawned on us that leukemia was the culprit. Those three weeks were filled with questions: “What’s going on?”

I am a high-energy guy. For me to have fatigue was alarming to everyone. People were freaking out, asking, “What is wrong with Dad?” because I am usually high-energy. Our minds never went to the dire reality we eventually faced — nothing close.

I couldn’t walk from my car to my house without being exhausted.

Russ D., AMML Patient

A Primary Care Doctor and Wife Who Advocated Hard

My primary care physician was very much on top of things and advocating for me. She was in our corner and treated me with what she knew. When the blood test came back with the accelerated white blood cells, she said, “Get to the ER right now.”

It takes a lot to get me to go to the hospital. I tend to be a little bit too chivalrous or stubborn. My wife was also really urging me. She was consulting Doctor Google, researching and reading, and she did not like what she was seeing. It did not take much for her to get me going as well.

blood vials
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

The Moment Everything Changed

That afternoon, I had already been in the hospital for three days, and they told me I was being discharged at 2 p.m. I was actually feeling better after they had treated me a bit. I was packed up and ready to go home. Two o’clock, three o’clock, four o’clock went by.

By 4 p.m., I asked the nurse, “We were supposed to be discharged.” She said, “The doctor has not signed the orders yet.” At 6 p.m., the nurse came into our room with a phone. The doctor was on the phone telling my wife and me that I have acute myelomonocytic leukemia and that I needed to get treatment right away by going to downtown Los Angeles and going to USC.

When the blood test came back with the accelerated white blood cells, [my primary care physician] said, ‘Get to the ER right now.’

Russ D., AMML Patient

That moment was surreal and mind-boggling. Nancy was very afraid, and so was I. We’re older, so when I heard the word leukemia, I always thought of death. I asked the doctor, “How long do I have?” It was like going from 0 to 100 — from just living life to, “What?!” A peace settled on me. I cannot say I was fearful. I was more asking, “What is this, and how do we get after it?”

I had no idea at that point that without the clinical drug, there wasn’t much of a treatment opportunity. We were caught flat-footed and knew nothing about it. We have an education now, believe me. My wife was very upset, unhappy, and concerned. We held each other, moved into the discharge process, went home, picked up a couple of things, and drove down to what we thought was USC Medical Center.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Telling the Kids and Family in the Middle of the Chaos

We went to that medical facility, which was supposedly USC, but USC had sold its building to a public medical group. It was not what we expected. My daughters came down, and I hugged them, but I was inside the building trying to get treatment and move through their process.

My wife handled the bulk of communicating with the entire family about my situation. That was brutal. She was a great mom and was there for them, but it was very tough. My youngest daughter was absolutely undone. She was worried I would not be there for her marriage. She had a serious boyfriend and feared I would not walk her down the aisle. She had a lot of angst, and her boyfriend, her fiancé, was seeing this for the first time and was overwhelmed.

My oldest daughter was emotional but very strong. My wife also had to tell my son, and he and I are very close. That was a tough conversation for both of them. The family had initial fears, concerns, and tears, but then it became, “Okay, what have we got to do here?”

When I heard the word leukemia, I always thought of death.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Insurance Rejection and Being Turned Away While Needing Treatment

I was in a back room getting tests, holding paperwork that the Providence doctor had given me. He said, “Show this paperwork and you will get admitted anywhere.” That wasn’t the case. I had to go through all these tests. I spent seven hours in that back room waiting and talking.

At the end of seven hours, a financial manager asked me to come into an area. She said my Medicare Advantage plan did not sync with their public funding, so they couldn’t treat me there. We went from 0 to 100, thinking we would go there and get treatment. We had prepared for that. Instead, she basically said, “You will have to leave. We cannot treat you here.”

insurance policy TOC
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

I had already released my family to go home because it is about a half-hour drive from where we live. Around 11 p.m., I called my wife and my daughter Danielle and said, “I need you to come pick me up. They’re rejecting me because of the funding.” They asked, “What are we going to do?” I said, “Come pick me up. Let’s get a good night’s sleep if we can, and I will deal with this in the morning.”

I slept well that night, but my wife didn’t at all. In the morning, we called an oncologist whom Providence was going to connect us with. This doctor had never seen me in the hospital, but was on the phone. She said, “Go to UCLA and be really sick, because you are going to have to go in through the ER. Take your paperwork and go through their emergency room.” That is where we headed in the morning.

My Medicare Advantage plan did not sync with their public funding… They’re rejecting me because of the funding.

Russ D., AMML Patient

We Had to Pivot to UCLA

I knew nothing about a biomarker at that point. I was just trying to remember the name of what I had. I was not “AMML-ing” it very well. My oncologist at Providence had told me, “Pretend that you’re very sick at UCLA.”

We arrived and waited in a tent outside in a parking area and it was cold. When I got in, the UCLA ER looked like the ground zero of a battle. There were people everywhere, gurneys, IV drips — everything. I went through a variety of stations, and my wife Nancy and my daughter Ally came with me. At one point, I was really in anguish — or pretending I was — and really doing my best to make myself seem very sick. My daughter Ally asked my wife, “Is Dad really hurting that bad?” I pulled down my mask, looked at her, and winked, so she knew I was not that bad.

They told me they were going to admit me, but didn’t know when. They put me on a gurney in a long hallway with bright recessed lighting. It was like a traffic jam on the freeway — gurney after gurney wrapped around the building. I don’t even know how the doctors and nurses kept track. I received good treatment there; they checked on me, made me comfortable, and did more tests.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

We arrived around 10:30 a.m. I was put on a gurney around 1:30 or 2:00 p.m. Eventually, they tucked us into a little side room where my gurney barely fit. It was more private because they knew they were going to admit me. A doctor came in and said, “This is what you have. It’s very treatable. You’re going to be just fine.” That wasn’t true, but we didn’t know that, and we took great comfort in it. She even prayed for me, which was very kind.

We sat in that small room until about 9 p.m. Then we were ushered into UCLA Ronald Reagan on the oncology floor. It took about 12 hours to get a room.

My care practitioner got me settled for the night, started a drip line, and I was attached to that pole for the next six months for the most part. It was a simple “Welcome, get in, and let’s set up what we need.” I told my wife she needed to go home. She was not happy about it. She spent several nights with me over time, though I’m not sure if she spent the night that first night.

They started testing in the middle of the night, so I got very little sleep. Providence had sent all its paperwork, so UCLA had a baseline, but they wanted to run their own tests. They did that through the night and into the next day, and they started chemo on the second day.

I didn’t know what a clinical trial was or how it would impact me… She said it would be very exciting if I qualified because of the NPM1 mutation.

Russ D., AMML Patient

First Time Hearing About the Biomarker and Clinical Trial Option

My first oncology doctor came to check on me and talk with my wife, my daughter, and me about the possibility of a clinical trial drug, of which I was thoroughly uninitiated. I didn’t know what a clinical trial was or how it would impact me. At that point, I had an IV pole with about 10 different bags running into me. I’m not a big pill-taker, and I had lost control of my life. All these choices were being made on my behalf. I was just along for the ride.

I remember her talking about this drug. I don’t remember her using the word biomarker. She talked about a mutation. That was the first time I heard anything about it. She said it would be very exciting if I qualified because of the NPM1 mutation. That was the first time my family and I heard it, but then nothing more was said for several days, until it actually got in motion.

I was in a bad way, dealing with the seven-day, round-the-clock 7+3 regimen. I had a rocky five or six days. While I was struggling, the clinical drug decision process was going on. My daughter and her husband had done a deep dive into the drug, and my wife had a close family friend with bladder cancer whose life was saved by a clinical drug. Between their research and that recommendation, my family moved toward the trial, even though others initially did not want me to suffer more after hearing about the side effects. My son and my other daughter relented, and we decided to go for it.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

My Family Made the Clinical Trial Decision and Saved My Life

They saved my life.

We did not have any other option. This drug had just been developed a few months before my diagnosis, so we believed it was a God thing. If I had been diagnosed a year earlier, I probably would have been gone by now. My prognosis was not favorable. There wasn’t anything else.

I was grappling with trying to get through the chemo. I remember being shivering cold, never able to get warm, and being in and out of sleep with violent dreams. My vision became extremely blurry for a while, which was very scary. I couldn’t focus on anything, which was terrifying. I was wondering if I was losing my eyesight. While I was in that state, my family was discussing the clinical drug. It wasn’t something I could participate in. When they explained it to me, I said, “Fine, let’s do it.”

The two people running the trial came in and handed me the paperwork. I signed it while on my bed. From that point forward, I was taking two pills a day.

We did not have any other option. This drug had just been developed a few months before my diagnosis, so we believed it was a God thing.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Learning to Live Around the Trial Drug Schedule

I tried to get them to give me the pills at the same time each day. You couldn’t have anything in your stomach two hours before taking them and then an hour after. It felt like madness. I tried to get them on a routine: “I will have lunch, you come in at 4 p.m., give me my pills, and I will have dinner at 5 p.m.” It took a week to get them aligned.

At that time, I followed the timing rules very strictly. Now I fudge here and there. They have since told me they don’t know exactly what should be done regarding food intake, because food actually integrates fine with the pills. Waiting two hours before and one hour after may be overwrought. I was very fastidious about it then, though.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

The Power of Family Support and My Goal of Being a Father

Our family is close. I love being a dad. My wife is an incredible mother. We have always had good relationships with our kids and loved raising them. All my kids and grandkids live within 20 minutes of us, so we’re always together.

I did not grow up with a father who cared about me or even talked to me. There was no connection between us. Becoming a father was a real goal of my life. A lot of people have goals of success. I wanted to be a father. I didn’t know how poor my upbringing was until I became a father myself. I dreamt of being a dad, and it came to pass. The greatest source of joy in my life is my family.

Them caring for me was very humbling. I was at UCLA for 29 straight days during that first stint. My wife, daughters, and son-in-law spent the night with me at different times. I had someone at the hospital every day but one. I was very focused on beating this and having life, and my family was the primary inspiration for that.

Them caring for me was very humbling… I was very focused on beating this and having life, and my family was the primary inspiration for that.

Russ D., AMML Patient

How I Think About Clinical Trials Now

For me, the clinical trial has always been a very positive point of reflection.

I came to understand how rare my cancer was and that there wasn’t much that could be done without this drug. Once we started, I never wavered about being part of it. I felt I was helping, and now a drug related to mine has become FDA-approved. The company that manufactures it has been gracious and kind to me because I was one of the first people to take the trial drug upon diagnosis. The FDA approval initially came for those who had relapsed, but they saw the drug work in me at diagnosis.

I felt it was a real privilege and I was very grateful. I told the company, “Anything I can ever do for you, I will.” I have done some speaking for them. I felt good about helping others, forwarding healing for people coming after me. When I reflect on it, I’m always glad to be part of it and willing to do anything I can to further healing for others.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Life on a Clinical Trial: Monitoring, Visits, and Bone Marrow Biopsies

After being discharged from the 29-day hospital stay, the clinical drug protocol required me to return to UCLA twice a month initially. The first appointment of the month was just labs. The second was labs plus a doctor’s checkup. That went on for seven or eight months. Now it’s once a month at UCLA, where I do labs and see the doctor at the same visit.

I also still get a bone marrow biopsy every 90 days. I just had one about a month ago, and everything came back MRD-negative. We are about six months away from the end of the two-year trial, so something will shift at that point, but I am not sure how yet.

I still take the trial pills. I used to take two pills a day; it’s now three pills a day and has been for six or seven months. I take them in the afternoon. With the first one, I say a small prayer of thanks: “Lord, thank you for [this drug] and that it has become FDA-approved.” With the second, I say, “Thank you for its ongoing efficacy in my body to bring healing.” With the third, I say, “May it always be potent, may I never die of cancer, and bless oncology.”

With the first one, I say a small prayer of thanks: ‘Lord, thank you for [this drug] and that it has become FDA-approved.’ With the second, I say, ‘Thank you for its ongoing efficacy in my body to bring healing.” With the third, I say, ‘May it always be potent, may I never die of cancer.’

Russ D., AMML Patient

Having Extra Eyes on Me

Being in a clinical trial means there are extra eyes on you — extra monitoring, extra visits, and extra biopsies. That hit me early, and I took to it like a duck to water because I felt it was part of my recovery. My wife and I have to drive down to UCLA on a major thoroughfare and fight traffic. It’s not always convenient, but my feeling is that we need to be the best patients, the most pleasant, and grateful people we can be. Let the eyes be on me.

I welcome that because it gives the team more data and information. It can help with this nasty disease. I jokingly call myself the poster boy for this clinical drug because I was one of the first to get it upon diagnosis, so they watch me very closely. I embraced my poster boy responsibilities.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

What I Tell People Who are Considering Clinical Trials

If I were sitting in front of a group of people who might know something or nothing about clinical trials, I would start by saying: clinical trials saved my life. I am here today because of a clinical trial drug.

I would encourage you that if there is an available trial drug, do your research, talk with your doctors and caregivers, and seriously look at it as a means by which you embrace treatment that is the absolute best for you. I admit I have a bias; the clinical drug saved my life, so I am a strong proponent. Every person is different, and every situation warrants its own process, so do your process. But if you are going to lean in and need a little help deciding which way to go, I am going to nudge you toward the trial.

Clinical trials saved my life. I am here today because of a clinical trial drug.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Learning About My NPM1 Mutation

The process of discovering the mutation and biomarker was not discussed with me at the time. They did the tests and used the results to guide my treatment.

Later, one of the doctors in the entourage wrote everything down for me on a sheet of paper: the NPM1 mutation, some details, and clarifications. I still keep that piece of paper on my desk. It was the first time I truly understood anything. Up to that point, everything had been verbal, and it did not fully land with real cognition. That paper was a breakthrough moment for me.

It was also the day they told me I was in deep, deep remission. I had never heard of anyone being in “deep, deep remission,” only remission. My oncologist called it “deep, deep,” so I quote him on that. The paper is special because she took the time, on her own initiative, to write it out and make it clear to the degree a layperson could understand.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

It was a breakthrough moment for me to understand, and it was also the day they told me I was in deep, deep remission.

Russ D., AMML Patient
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

The Communication Gap Between Doctors and Patients

It’s important to humanize all of this because there’s so much information being thrown at you. In my case, it was not backwards, but they knew what to do with me. They knew about the clinical trial and my mutation, which was reassuring.

However, there’s a disconnect between the medical field and patients. Medical professionals are so busy and consumed that they look for the shortest paths to communicate and fulfill their jobs. They take for granted that patients will understand information to a certain degree. There are rare doctors who make it simple, and that is genius: having tremendous knowledge but breaking it down so anyone can understand.

A lot of doctors do not seem to enjoy that part of communicating with patients. They may trivialize it because they’re focused on saving lives. That creates disconnect and frustration for patients and families. I’m not judging them; I respect their learning, work, and time. It’s just a reality. What helps is follow-up, like when a couple of nurses came back into my room to help me understand more. That was very valuable.

Genius is tremendous knowledge broken down so anyone can understand.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Keeping lines of communication with the care team open is crucial, but it’s hard for one person to hold all the information. My wife was so focused on me that she did not understand a lot either. My oldest daughter became an advocate, but she eventually had to drop off because she has a family and responsibilities. During that first month, she was all over it by helping explain, fielding conversations, and taking on discussions I couldn’t have because I wasn’t well enough. My wife was too concerned about me to shoulder it all.

It’s a reality that some doctors’ personalities are not geared toward the communicative side. Family members or advocates who can help digest and interpret are incredibly important.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Navigating the Future: Labs, Remission, and Living Day by Day

Now, I can read my labs and know what I am looking at and looking for. I understand the terminology regarding my biopsies. The future is not really discussed. I do not know how to discuss it, which is why I try to savor each day and enjoy it for what it is.

My primary oncologist has said one key thing: every day you do not relapse makes it more likely that you will not. As far as the future is concerned, I live on that. I do not have bad days. I have never been someone who comes home and says, “I had a bad day.” As far as I know, I am totally cancer-free. That is a good day. Whatever else happens is icing on the cake — and I like lots of icing, especially on carrot cake, which my wife is making for Thanksgiving.

Live your life in the sweet spot of faith and science.

Russ D., AMML Patient

There isn’t much dialogue about the future because it is unknown. My oncologist looks at me and says, “Russ, you’re doing good, man. Keep it up.” He is the director of stem cell research and training at UCLA. He did not push me in that direction, even though it would have been natural. He walked with me and watched me. He told me I had options, which many people do not have. He laid out my options but didn’t tell me what to choose. That was up to my family and me.

Living at the Intersection of Faith and Science

I live in the sweet spot of the intersection of faith and hope. You need people praying for you and a community around you. You want to consider spiritual truth to build your faith and strength to fight your disease.

However, do not allow faith to short-circuit your belief in science. A drug was made for me at the right time in my life that saved my life. God blesses great minds with creativity and the ability to do great things for their fellow human beings. Take advantage of that. Where those tools overlap, live your life in the sweet spot of faith and science.

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML
Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Surrender, Trust, and “Letting Them Bake the Cake”

If I had one main piece of advice for people with AMML or cancer, the word that comes to me is surrender. Place your life in the hands of your higher power — your God, whatever you believe is larger than you and gives life. Surrender to the knowledge and wisdom of experienced doctors.

My primary care physician said to me, “UCLA has the recipe to bake the cake.” I have always trusted that they have the recipe, and they baked a cake for me. Surrender to God, surrender to the doctors, and embrace peace and savor it.

Another hard part is realizing your life is not your own. You have to accept that. If you try to micromanage every detail, you are not going to make it. I was an advocate to a point, and my wife and daughter were advocates too, but a lot happened because we trusted the wisdom and experience of the doctors. You can fight that truth or surrender to it. I surrendered, though it was not always easy.

Surrender to God, surrender to the doctors, and embrace peace and savor it.

Russ D., AMML Patient

Russ D. AMML
Thank you for sharing your story, Russ!

Inspired by Russ's story?

Share your story, too!


Kura Oncology

Thank you to Kura Oncology for their support of our independent patient education program. The Patient Story retains full editorial control over all content.


This interview has been edited for clarity and length. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider to make informed treatment decisions.

The views and opinions expressed in this interview do not necessarily reflect those of The Patient Story.


More Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML) Stories

Russ D. AMML, a rare subtype of AML

Russ D., Acute Myelomonocytic Leukemia (AMML), with NPM1 Mutation



Symptoms:Flu‑like symptoms, profound fatigue, blood pressure drop, shortness of breath

Treatments:Chemotherapy, clinical trial (menin inhibitor)
Shelley G. acute myeloid leukemia

Shelley G., Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML) with NPM1 Mutation



Symptoms: Fatigue, rapid heartbeat, shortness of breath, low blood counts
Treatments: Chemotherapy, clinical trial, stem cell transplant
Joseph A. acute myeloid leukemia

Joseph A., Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML)



Symptoms: Suspicious leg fatigue while cycling, chest pains due to blood clot in lung

Treatments: Chemotherapy, clinical trial (targeted therapy, menin inhibitor), stem cell transplant
Mackenzie P.

Mackenzie P., Acute Myeloid Leukemia (AML)



Symptoms: Shortness of breath, passing out, getting sick easily, bleeding and bruising quickly

Treatments: Chemotherapy (induction and maintenance chemotherapy), stem cell transplant, clinical trials
Load More

Categories
Caregivers Schorrs Spouse

Esther Schorr’s Cancer Caregiver Story

Esther Schorr’s Cancer Caregiver Story

Esther took a vow to her husband, Andrew, to support him in sickness and in health. Then 10 years into their relationship, Esther was suddenly faced with fulfilling that vow as a young wife and mother two kids. She stuck by Andrew as a care partner when he was suddenly diagnosed with chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL).

Esther reflects on their relationship, the importance of taking care of oneself in order to take care of others, and processing all the emotions that come with a cancer diagnosis.

Thank you for sharing your story, Esther!

Andrew’s Patient Story

Cancer survivor Andrew shares his CLL story, including clinical trials, connecting with other CLL patients, treatment side effects, and saying yes to life.

Andrew & Esther’s Story

Andrew and Esther share their CLL story, including reacting to a cancer diagnosis and figuring out their next steps together.

This interview has been edited for clarity. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider for treatment decisions.


“You need to take care of yourself as well as you take care of the person that you love so much who’s going through it.”

Esther Schorr

Introduction

How did you and Andrew meet?

I actually met Andrew outside of Los Angeles at what at the time was called sort of a singles weekend. I guess that was before all the online stuff. We’re Jewish, so it was sort of a Jewish celebration of the Sabbath. 

I met Andrew. He had been very involved with this group for a long time and I was kind of a newbie. When I met him, I thought he would be a great match for one of my best friends at the time. I left that weekend thinking, “Nice guy. Probably not for me, but whatever.” 

The long and the short of it is that we met again at a reunion of the people on that weekend. In the meantime, I had broken up with somebody and was dating other people.

He invited me to go out. We went out and 6 months later, we were married. That’s the story, and that was almost 38 years ago.

It went well. We went to Hawaii together on a trip. I was supposed to go with my mother to Hawaii and instead I went with Andrew. She was okay with it and he proposed to me on top of a volcano. It was very cool.

What were your roles or personalities in the relationship?

Andrew, from the get go, was very much more of an adventurer than I was. I liked to travel, but I hadn’t done as much as I would have liked to, because I just wasn’t doing it on my own. 

I’d say it was more of not so much opposites attract, but more Andrew is much more even-tempered and has an even perspective on life than I was and still am. I’m more of an up-and-down emotional relater than he is. That’s carried through our relationship and through the journey we’ve been on with his diagnoses. I’ve just learned to stay more even on a lot of things, and I’m sure we can talk about that.

Sort of that fast-forward period in that early part of our marriage, I ended up leaving a corporate job and went into business with Andrew doing videos in the health field. In the middle of all that, we moved to Seattle from Los Angeles and had 2 kids and a dog. We ended up with a dog and a cat. That was the beginning of our married life, and life got hectic.

Health Issues Start

10 years into your relationship, Andrew starts experiencing symptoms

Actually, he was feeling fine, except he was having some nosebleeds out of nowhere. He’s very athletic. He and I were running half marathons, and he was pushing the kids and the little stroller, the jogger. 

After a couple of nosebleeds, I said, “You know what? Why don’t you just go to the doctor, let them look up your nose and see what’s going on.” It turned out that the nosebleeds had nothing to do with his first cancer diagnosis.

He ended up having some blood work done.

What, if anything, was going through your head?

Early on, I thought, “We live in a place where the weather is dry.” He wasn’t having any other symptoms. He was exercising, sleeping well, hadn’t gained or lost weight. Up until pretty much the second call from the doctor… 

There was a first call of, “How are you feeling?” 

“I’m fine.” 

The doctor said, “Really? It looks like you may be fighting some kind of an infection. Let’s redo it in 10 days.” 

At that point, I wasn’t really concerned when he went back for the second blood test, and then the doctor called and said, “I think we need to do further testing.” 

It was then that I was like, “Oh no, what’s going on?” I wasn’t really tipped off until then.

Do you remember the moment of the diagnosis?

I do, and I remember the visceral feeling of being in some kind of strange, very bad dream. It was like I really didn’t believe it. I was like, “What are you talking about?” 

Then as I thought about it, I got very, very frightened. Somebody in the Seattle area, a well-known figure, had recently at that time died of chronic lymphocytic leukemia. It was a relatively young guy like Andrew. 

I clearly remember Andrew and I just both going, “What?” and being completely gobsmacked. Then, of course, we thought about, “Oh my God, we have 2 young kids.” I think the oldest was maybe 8, and the little one was 4. We were trying to conceive a third child at that time, so it pretty much blew my top off emotionally.

Being a Caregiver

Do you have advice for other caregivers in this situation?

My reaction was one of high anxiety and I would say very close to being incapacitated emotionally. I went and got help. I went into counseling. 

I felt that if I couldn’t be there for Andrew and couldn’t be there for the kids and I couldn’t keep it together, then I had to figure out how to get through this in some rational, functional way. What it led to is that I went into counseling. 

Andrew and I went into counseling together. We were figuring out what was the treatment, who was the right doctor, etc. I went onto some anti-anxiety medication. That’s not for everybody, so that’s not really advice. 

I knew that through talk therapy and through understanding my composition, I needed external help to stay even and rational about what our next steps needed to be. To this day, that has helped me get through some of the other things that have come up along the way. 

I’d say the advice is if you’re not dealing, if you’re not on an even keel, it doesn’t mean you can’t feel it and that you’re not going to be upset. But you have to figure out a way to be able to work with your partner or your loved one to make some rational decisions together.

»MORE: How to Help Someone with Cancer

Taking care of yourself so you can be a caregiver

That’s totally it for you as a caregiver, whether you’re a care partner — you’re the person, the main person with the patient — or you’re just part of the support system. The patient is dealing with the patient’s shock, but there are going to be things that a patient has to take care of themselves. 

Then there are going to be [things] like in our situation. There were children that didn’t understand what was going on. There was some measure of having to shield them from having them be upset. You have to be present. There are some people who are able to do that without outside assistance, and some just need that additional support for themselves. 

Get enough sleep. Don’t stop eating. If you need medication or you need counseling, you need to get them. Do yoga, whatever works to keep you balanced. They’re going to need it.

Support for Caregivers

Value of professional counseling

It’s maybe not even professional counseling, but that’s one outside voice. For me, during some of the latter part, it was my mom. I clearly remember when Andrew first went through treatment, I didn’t want to share with Andrew openly my emotional feelings about that. 

He knew that I was concerned, but I needed to have a good cry. I didn’t want to do that when he’s already dealing with his own anxiety or issues. In some cases, it would be somebody who’s in pain. Fortunately for him, it wasn’t. 

To have an outlet of somebody else who can support you while you’re supporting your loved one is really important, and it’s not a sign of weakness. It’s that you’re a person, too.

What is the importance of getting support right away?

I think you have to put ego aside. It’s like saying, “I’m strong enough to get through this on my own.” Some people are, but you have to know. You have to look inside and say, “Okay, this is not going to be the even road that we thought it was going to be or that we hoped it would be.” 

You have to keep your eye on the end goal. The end goal is for your loved one to get better and for you to be there as fully as you can be to support them. The only way you can do that is for you to be strong and centered as well. You have to know there’s nothing wrong with having human weakness or human emotion. 

You just have to figure out how you as an individual have to regulate that and get through it, because it’s going to be a challenge for you in a similar way as it is to the patient, except it’s not happening to you. It’s the emotional part that you’re both going through.

Dealing with Emotions

Processing grief

There’s one other thing I would say. Looking back on it, it’s also dealing with a sense of grief. When somebody dies or when somebody gets very sick, even for the people who are not sick that are watching something like that go on, there’s a grieving process. 

For a caregiver or a care partner, as I like to call it, there’s a sense that when somebody you love is diagnosed with something you know is going to disrupt their hopes and dreams in one way or another, it’s going to disrupt yours. You have to kind of let yourself grieve a little bit. 

Say, “Okay, this isn’t the hand I wanted to be dealt, but I’m going to have to deal with it along with my loved one. If I need some support in doing that, I need to go get it. Otherwise, I’m not going to be any help.”

Going on anti-anxiety medication

It was for me less depression, but more anxiety. It’s like being immobilized by, “Oh my God, this is something I’m not sure I know how to deal with. Oh my God, my dearest loved one could die from this.” 

I didn’t know what treatment was going to be like. Some people, I think, can say, “This is what it is. Let’s move on. Let’s do it together.” For me, I had to process the emotions and the fear. There was a fear as well. 

Over time, I’ve learned to put certain feelings in boxes. I think that’s a skill that gets learned along the way, especially with something like a chronic cancer or a chronic disease. 

You kind of worry when you have to worry, and otherwise kind of put it in the back of the closet. “I’m not going to worry about this now.” I may be jumping ahead, but that was something that I felt like I needed to learn. Save my real worrying for when I really have to worry.

How were your emotions day to day?

This is just for me how this was. When I would start to think about what could happen, I was looking at a man that looked very healthy to me, but I was told that at some point he’s going to need treatment, that it’s cancer. When somebody still says “cancer,” you don’t want this in your life. 

For me, it was trouble getting to sleep at night, palpitations, my heart would race, crying. “I don’t know what to do. I don’t know how to function, trying to keep it together for the kids and not frighten them.” There was a lot of just not feeling good at all. 

That was the stuff I felt like I had to get past. I had to figure out how to function normally. Counseling, medication for me and regular exercise helped. Also, having conversations with other loved ones who were supportive, whether it was my mom, my brother, a best friend. What I needed to do is build that network for myself while Andrew was building his network. Sometimes they overlapped.

How did you figure out the right people to talk to?

As far as the people, let’s start there. As far as the support system of friends and family, I chose my mom. She was a social worker, so she was very tuned in to that. She also knew me best. 

My father was more of an engineer, pragmatic kind of guy. Not that I couldn’t talk to him, but I had a different relationship with him. I’d always shared very emotional things with my mom, so I chose her for that reason. 

I had a couple of friends. My recollection is I had a couple of friends who, in their family, they had dealt in one way or another with a serious condition. They had gone through what we were going through, whether it was with a spouse or a parent or a child. I figured that they could relate and maybe help me kind of pull apart what was going on for me and give me some advice for how to manage that. 

Peers are selective because I knew there were certain people in my life, acquaintances, that would just say, “Oh, my God, oh, my God.” That wasn’t going to help me, and it wasn’t going to help Andrew. That was a process of really looking at my relationships and saying, “Where could I safely and effectively get that support?”

Research and Tools

How did you and Andrew approach researching CLL?

Andrew, by his own nature, was a journalist and wanted to know the answer to everything. I’m a project manager by nature, so I’m a researcher in putting things in order. In that sense, we work together. 

One of the first things we knew we needed was, “What the heck is this?” We’re like, “Okay, they said it’s some sort of a chronic cancer. Well, what does that mean?” 

We were also told, “You probably aren’t going to need treatment for a while.” We were confused. Our way of together dealing with it is to try to get as much information about what we were dealing with. What is a chronic cancer? What was this cancer, different from that cancer? 

At that point, we were working together on it. I think we went back and forth. Andrew’s quite stoic. I don’t mean that he doesn’t feel things, but he’s a pragmatist. He just sort of pushes through them. 

There were things that I just said, “Andrew, you find out what we need to do and tell me what I need to do to support you.” In other cases, I said, “You know what? I need to understand this, so I’m going to go and get the answers.” It’s really teamwork.

»MORE: Learn more about supporting a spouse through cancer

Can you describe the tools you’ve developed to help?

Tools first. If you are not functioning well and feeling adrift and feeling anxious, don’t be afraid to look for outside help. You’re probably not going to get that from the patient, because they’re dealing with their own things. You need to seek counseling and seek peers who will understand what’s going on, like family members. Get support. 

If you find that there’s physiological things going on, sometimes for some people — whether it’s medicine or marijuana or other supplement, acupuncture, exercise, yoga, meditation — any of the things that can help you feel centered and in control of your own emotions so you can think clearly is really important. 

We were talking a little bit about compartmentalizing. Over time, when there were bad milestones [like], “Uh-oh, my person needs treatment or numbers are going in the wrong direction in blood tests,” my tool has been, “Okay, is this something that I need to worry about right now, or can I save my worrying for when there’s something really drastic that warrants pulling out all the stops?” 

I’m going to worry, I’m going have a good cry, and I’m going to go back to a counselor. I will get through this. I think that’s the best way for me to describe the compartmentalization. Also, the one other thing is living in the moment. 

At my darkest times when I’ve just felt like I could see a potential train wreck coming, I say, “I don’t know if I’m going to get hit by the train, so I’m here right now. My loved one is here right now. We need to live in this moment.” It’s a practiced skill, and I’m not always successful at it, but it’s something to work on.

What is the main takeaway for caregivers?

I would say to anyone who has to support somebody with a serious illness, you need to take care of yourself as well as you take care of the person that you love so much who’s going through it. If you want to be there for them, you need to figure out how to stay stable, how to stay the course, and do what you need for yourself so that you’re fully there to support the person that you love.


Inspired by Esther's story?

Share your story, too!

More Spouse Caregiver Stories

David G. cancer caregiver

David Garrigues Ronda, Spouse of Laurent Gemenick, Bladder Cancer Patient



“Talk to family, talk to friends. Ask for help. Don't be alone. And above all, don’t miss any doctor's appointments.”
...
Stephen and Emily H. cancer caregiver

Lung Cancer Caregiver Series Episode 2: Stephen and Emily Huff's Candid Conversation



"We talked, and I remember saying, "What if we have kids and what if I die?" And you were like, "What if you live?"
...
Stephen and Emily H. cancer caregiver

Emily Huff, Spouse of Stephen, Lung Cancer Patient



“Emily's the reason why I’m alive today. The treatments have kept the cancer at bay, but she's the one who’s kept me living, breathing, and enjoying life.”
...
Blair and Kyle D. brain cancer care partner

Blair D., Spouse of Brain Cancer Patient



“Find other people who are going through the same thing you are. This journey is very isolating and very lonely.”
...
Nat G. bladder cancer caregiver

Nat G., Spouse of Bladder Cancer Patient



“You have to become selfless as a caregiver. You have to assure that person that you are there for them.”
...
Jenny and Kyle Appleford

Kyle Appleford, Spouse of Lung Cancer Patient (Metastatic) with No History of Smoking



“Ask for help. Don’t be too prideful to accept the help. I wouldn’t be here without all the support from family and friends.”
...

Categories
Caregiver FAQ Support

How to Help Someone with Cancer

How to Help Someone with Cancer

10 Acts of Service and Emotional Support

When a loved one in your life has been diagnosed with cancer, one of the first thoughts we have is, “What can I do for you?” This support can come in the form of material gifts and words of comfort, which are all love languages in their own right.

But they’re not the only ways of showing that you care.

If a physical gift isn’t the best fit for either of you, then do something for your loved one that they can’t do or don’t have the time or energy to do for themselves through an act of service.

These gestures can bring help for cancer patients at home and can help their caregivers, who are also dealing with an incredibly difficult situation.

»MORE:  What to Say to Someone with Cancer
or What to Give Cancer Patients

Do something you know will make them smile. Do something that will take some of the weight or stress off of their shoulders. Here are 10 favorite ideas of giving support through acts of service and/or emotional support, shared by real cancer patients:


1. Get Them Groceries

This is incredibly helpful, especially if the person you love is a parent with a busy family life. They are going to want to be able to keep their house running smoothly, but their job is to beat cancer. You can help buy groceries or any other household goods they might need.

2. Cook for them

If you don’t know what they might need from the store, cook them a meal. That’s one less thing they have to worry about. And it’s not just for them, but if they usually prepare meals for others, this saves cancer patients both time and energy.

3. Offer to drive them somewhere

Chemo and other cancer treatment can make patients feel ill, exhausted, and otherwise unable to drive. An offer to shuttle your loved one to appointments, the store, the pharmacy, and other places can be a necessity.

For Montessa L., chemotherapy for her small cell lung cancer caused her to be so tired, she could not drive herself back home from appointments.

Somebody drove me to all of those because some of the medications I was on also made me very drowsy. I couldn’t really drive and be loopy, some of those pain medications made me out of it. The church organized those rides to pick me up.

I would drive myself to go get the blood work on the weeks I didn’t have the chemo, because I wasn’t on the pain medications the whole time, or the anti-nausea medications may be drowsy too, so they drove me to those. 

Montessa L.

→ Read more of Montessa’s story

An offer to drive can also be just a pleasant distraction. Doreen D. survived stage 2A breast cancer, and she credits a lot of her serenity to being around her friends.

Somebody would come to pick me up and drive me around. ‘I don’t care where you’re going,’ is what I said to my friends. It’s like if you’re going for an errand, come pick me up.

Getting into the car is hard, getting out of the car is hard, walking normal – hard. Thinking – hard. But you could still be with somebody and not say anything and roll through it. For me that was huge.

Doreen D.

→ Read more of Doreen’s story

4. Clean their house

Caitlin J. explains how it helped her on different levels. It took something off of her plate, but it also helped her save money.

My mom would come clean the house so we didn’t have to get a house cleaner and spend money that way. There was no way I was going to be able to do that.

Caitlin J.

→ Read more of Caitlin’s story

5. Start a fundraiser

If you know your friend is going to need help financially and you want to help, know that fundraisers on platforms like GoFundMe are common. It’s a thoughtful way of helping your loved one, especially since asking for help might feel awkward or difficult for them to do.

What’s more, many acquaintances, friends, and family members who can’t physically be present will want to help too. This is a way everyone can be involved, no matter where they live. 

Nicole B. went through a stage 3 soft tissue sarcoma diagnosis and she says,

I would have never set up anything for myself, but we had friends set up a YouCaring page, which is like a GoFundMe page. It was amazing watching friends step up like that and seeing how many people love you in different ways.

Nicole B.

→ Read more of Nicole’s story

Jude A. had stage 3 multiple myeloma that metastasized in several different places. She’s a cancer survivor, and she’s also a licensed massage therapist. Jude’s friends and family helped her this way.

I had two fundraisers. That was very generous and kind and mind-blowing. The generosity was overwhelming. That was very touching. The generosity of the physical gifts was very kind, but I think that anybody that reached out just meant so much. You never know how you’ve affected someone’s life until you’re in a situation like this.

Jude A.

→ Read more of Jude’s story

Even if it’s not money you’re raising, you can still host an event for them. Lauren C. explains how her sister not only helped her but so many others:

My sister organized a blood drive for me. I mentioned that I needed blood transfusions, so blood cells and platelets which are in that category. So, she motivated folks to come to Memorial Sloan Kettering, their blood donor room, and donate blood for me.

Even if it wasn’t necessarily used directly for me, it was used for other patients in the hospital, because they only have a certain shelf length. It never went to waste.

Lauren C.

→ Read more of Lauren’s story

6. Connection through communication

Put yourself in the shoes of someone who’s been through something traumatic, like getting diagnosed with cancer. It can be extremely isolating. One way for people to feel connected is through genuine outreach and communication from those around them.

Arielle R. is a non-Hodgkin lymphoma survivor and says she needed people more than anything else.

For me, I cope with people, that’s just who I am. I’m a dependent coper. I do better when I’m in communication with someone, so finding other peoples’ stories was the best gift for me.

Arielle R.

→ Read more of Arielle’s story

It wasn’t so much advice that my family was giving me, it was more words of encouragement. They would check in on me every now and again. 

Even when I wasn’t having treatment, they would just check in on me, send me a text, ‘Hey, how you doing?’ Or, ‘How you feeling?’ 

Kim O., Marginal Zone Lymphoma

→ Read more of Kim’s story

7. Visits

Jude says the worst part of her treatment was feeling alone. She appreciated everything everyone did for her, but the visits are what helped her the most.

The best thing was the visiting. Feeling like someone cared and loved me enough to physically visit me was amazing. Of course, the calls and texts were great too, but the physical visits were a huge deal. 

One friend in particular would come and say, “All I want to do is hold your hand and kiss your head.” I hadn’t seen this guy in 20 years, and now he’s one of my best friends. He would come and just hold my hand through the plastic glove. It was so wonderful.

Jude A.

Rachel R. had stage 2 renal cell carcinoma in her right kidney. She is a blogger, content creator and a firm believer in allowing yourself to feel. She says,

Having friends make an effort to drive down to see me – that was really encouraging. I had times where I would get in the car and before I even said hello, I would start crying because they were a safe space where I didn’t have to be so strong anymore. Having space to freely feel was really important.

Rachel R.

→ Read more of Rachel’s story

8. Talk about “normal” things

So much changes once someone is diagnosed with cancer. Many times, people dealing with cancer and treatment are seeking conversation about anything but cancer.

This is where you can provide some comfort by just talking about what you used to, pre-cancer. That was the case for Lani S., who says “normal” conversation was incredibly helpful during her Hodgkin lymphoma treatment.

A big thing for me was talking about and doing normal things. A friend of mine watched the Academy Awards with me, and that was so much fun. It was nice to feel normal.

One time, I went to visit friends from college. I played games with my family. People would tell me about their day, and that felt so good because it was just a normal conversation.

Lani S.

→ Read more of Lani’s story

9. Just be there (give time)

You can always send a text or call. You can lend a listening ear or a shoulder to cry on. Sometimes the best gift you can give someone is letting them know that they are not alone.

Remind them you are with them – even if you can’t physically be there. If you can physically be there, visit.

For Madi J., this meant more than anything else while she was undergoing chemotherapy for Hodgkin lymphoma.

Just be there. I was terrible about texting back because I felt so crappy all the time. If they don’t text you back, don’t take it personally. Text again the next day. Ask if they’re hungry. Tell them you’ll bring food.

Whether the person suffering chooses to accept or not doesn’t really matter. At least they know how much you’re willing to give of your time and energy. It helps to feel genuineness in an offer.

Monetary gifts are great, but time is worth so much more. If you want to come over and watch a show with me, awesome. Be there. Be genuine. That’s my advice.

Madi J.

→ Read more of Madi’s story

Many cancer patients agree – just being there and getting someone’s time is the relief they need.

People deserve to be allowed to acknowledge when something is awful and bothering them. People in my life were willing to give me space to do that, without telling me to look at something else about it that was more positive really helped me. It gave me a space to feel bad about things I was really unhappy about.

My friends who were willing to help me adapt back into normal life after I went into remission were amazing. I know it wasn’t easy on them.

Lani S.

→ Read more of Lani’s story

Kim

I’m not a good advice giver but the only thing I could say is to just be there. You don’t have to have words, it’s about support.

More than anything, the support. Just your presence, that’s the most important thing, that was what was important to me.

Kim S., Follicular Lymphoma

→ Read more of Kim’s story

10. No matter what, be specific

My biggest pet peeve is that ominous phrase, ‘Let me know if I can do anything.’ That is the biggest cop out ever. Initiate something. Make a plan. Say, ‘Hey, I’m out and about. What can I bring you?

The generic “let me know if I can do anything” people drove me crazy. That’s the emptiest statement ever.

It’s like when someone’s family member dies. If you say that to them, what does that person want to say back? “Let me know if you can do anything? Well, can you bring my loved one back to life?” 

When someone leaves it that far open for you, it’s hard. “Anything” is very broad. You want to pay my medical bills? My rent? There are a lot of things I could say in response to that question, so it makes it really hard.

Madi J.

Other Cancer Caregiving Stories

Gifts for Cancer Patients

Gifts can be a great way to show your support for a loved one with cancer, but it can be tough to know what to give. Here are gift ideas from real-life cancer survivors - from physical gifts to volunteering your time...

How to Help Someone with Cancer

Read 10 acts of service and emotional support to help a loved one who's been diagnosed with cancer. These are suggestions from real former cancer patients who share what was most helpful for them...

How to Talk to Kids About Cancer

Hear how patients facing cancer navigated diagnosis and treatment while balancing their role as a parent. Hear their advice from how to talk to your kids about cancer to when to ask for help with childcare...

How To Tell Your Family and Friends You Have Cancer

If you’ve been diagnosed with cancer and are unsure how to go about telling your friends and family, read stories from real cancer survivors who share their experiences on how they broke the news...

Inspirational Quotes From Cancer Survivors

Finding power through the words of other patients can make a world of difference when you're going through cancer treatment. Reader quotes about diagnosis, hair loss, survivorship, and more...
Categories
Caregiver FAQ

My Spouse Was Diagnosed With Cancer

My Spouse/Partner Was Diagnosed With Cancer:
3 Things To Remember


Marriages and long-time relationships are a beautiful thing. There is something precious about wholly promising your life to someone else and having them do the same.

This commitment can also be challenging at times, especially when outside stress knocks at your door. Sometimes, that stress is a cancer diagnosis. So, how do you manage that?

Barbara Kivowitz went through her own chronic illness, and her experience encouraged her to write a book about the patient-caregiver relationship between married couples. She says there are three very common themes across these marital and long-time relationships to keep in mind: the difference in experiences, the role shift, and the protection racket.

1. Your experiences of the illness are going to be different.

“For the patient, they’re experiencing it in their body. For them, it can be a profound existential crisis. They were one thing, they don’t know exactly who they are right now, and they don’t know who they’re going to be. The patient may need some quiet time to process these new forces in their life,” Kivowitz says.

”For the caregiver, the experience is very different. One of the people they love most is at risk. They are driven to problem solve. They want to make it better. They want to do. That can be a potential point of collision.”

This is why communication is so important. Both of you are going through the same thing, but you’re going through it in a completely different way.

Your fears might be similar, but they are not exactly the same. Therefore, your needs are going to be different.

Many TPS community members who have been through treatment recommend therapy or counseling of some kind. A therapist can create a helpful, safe environment in which both partners can express their thoughts, fears, and needs.

Casey Head went through a long process with leukemia, and she solidifies the claim by suggesting proactive counseling. Get out in front of it and come up with coping strategies before problems come up.

“I would recommend immediately going to see a therapist. Even if you know you have a really strong relationship, there are so many tools they can give you.”

Melissa Vaughan has multiple myeloma, and she says therapy was a great move for her family.

“A diagnosis is uncharted territory. There’s just as much stress on the caregiver as there is for the patient. We chose to go to counseling so he could help us navigate the best ways to communicate.”

Shannon Mercurio is a colon cancer survivor and speaks to those emotional needs that pop up after diagnosis. It can be hard to learn on the spot what you need after being thrust into an ocean of stress.

“When you go through a cancer diagnosis, all of the sudden you have these emotional needs that you didn’t know existed. Your partner doesn’t necessarily know what they look like. In a moment, life has changed, and your partner is dealing with this new fear and diagnosis just as much as you are.”

2. Your roles might shift, and that’s okay.

“You go from equals to patient and caregiver. That can be a game changer. For some partners, that becomes so embedded and prolonged over time, they lose their adult intimate connection,” Kivowitz says.

This can make it hard to revert back to normalcy after the patient recovers.

Many in our community have said that having their life to look forward to was what kept them going through hard times of their treatment. It’s important to balance caregiving with still being a spouse/partner.

“Unfortunately, he became more of a caregiver while I became a patient. I didn’t like that position. I think it brought out a lot of insecurities in me, especially being in a newer marriage,” Vaughan says.

It can be very difficult for someone who has been healthy their whole life to relinquish their ability to take care of themselves. As a caregiver, remember to take care of your partner’s pride. As a patient, be humble and remember that this will pass.

3. You don’t need to protect your spouse/partner.

“Another issue is the protection racket where neither one wants to say anything that would hurt the other one. They assume that if they were to speak about what’s in their gut and their heart, to speak about their emotions, whether that’s fear or anger or frustration, that it might somehow cause harm or break things.”

What winds up happening is each person is roiling with their own inner experience and not talking about it. What they wind up talking about ends up being more superficial and their connection is a little more fragile when they really need each other the most,” Kivowitz explains.

Cheyann Shaw and her husband had to be apart for a few months of her treatment for stage 4B ovarian cancer. She talks about how she and her husband had to keep communication very open, especially since they couldn’t be present physically.

It did more harm than good when she closed the channel of communication in an effort to protect him.

“At times, I would push him away because I didn’t know what was going to happen to me. I didn’t want him to not have me, so I would push him away to prepare him, but that did more harm.

It caused more tension, and that’s one thing you don’t need when you’re going through cancer.”

Showing your vulnerabilities gives the other person an opportunity to step up and be strong for you.

A caregiver can do this, but so can the patient. Nicole Body, a soft tissue sarcoma survivor, gives the perfect example of this.

“Even if you are a patient going through it, you still have so much to offer your spouse too. I remember he was so tired when I was going through chemo treatment.

One time, he crawled up in the hospital bed, and he fell asleep on my chest. Knowing that I was needed, and I could be a safe place for him too was one of the most beautiful moments I have ever experienced in my life.”

Remember that your individual experiences of the same circumstance are different. Your perspectives are different. Your fears might be similar in ways, but they are different in others.

Always keep an open line of communication and you will find that you can understand each other’s perspectives, address each other’s needs, not lose who each of you are, and come out on the other side stronger than you were before.

Patrick Mulick reiterates this idea as he talks about his wife taking on so many roles and keeping their lives running while he fought non-Hodgkin lymphoma for his.

“I wish cancer on no one, but some of the joys I’ve gotten from it, I wish for everybody. The way in which it brought my wife and I closer together was amazing.

It was a stress, and it was difficult, but we got through it together. I couldn’t have done it without her. Her support was nothing short of amazing.”


Caregiver Articles

Gifts for Cancer Patients

Gifts can be a great way to show your support for a loved one with cancer, but it can be tough to know what to give. Here are gift ideas from real-life cancer survivors - from physical gifts to volunteering your time...

How to Help Someone with Cancer

Read 10 acts of service and emotional support to help a loved one who's been diagnosed with cancer. These are suggestions from real former cancer patients who share what was most helpful for them...

How to Talk to Kids About Cancer

Hear how patients facing cancer navigated diagnosis and treatment while balancing their role as a parent. Hear their advice from how to talk to your kids about cancer to when to ask for help with childcare...

How To Tell Your Family and Friends You Have Cancer

If you’ve been diagnosed with cancer and are unsure how to go about telling your friends and family, read stories from real cancer survivors who share their experiences on how they broke the news...

My Spouse Was Diagnosed With Cancer

Marriage is wonderful, but a cancer diagnosis can create a disconnect for some couples. Here are three things to keep in mind in order to keep your relationship healthy after a diagnosis...

What to Say to Someone With Cancer

There’s no clear way to know what is best to say to someone with cancer, but there are some basic guidelines to help make your words and actions matter. Hear what helped and what didn’t from the patients themselves...