Elizabeth’s Stage 4 Colon Cancer Story

Interviewed by: Taylor Scheib
Edited by: Chris Sanchez

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This interview has been edited for clarity. This is not medical advice. Please consult with your healthcare provider for treatment decisions.

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I’m so grateful to be able to share my story with other people who will be able to watch this and know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, or that there are things that they can do to help themselves.

Introduction

History of Cancer

I have kind of a long history with cancer. 

Ten days after I was born, my mom was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma of the bowel. They gave her 2 years to live, but she made it to just 4 months after her diagnosis. Bone marrow transplants, which is what they do now, had not started yet. They actually started 2 years after she was diagnosed. 

When I was 2, my dad noticed that I had a lump in my neck. I’d been born with a cyst under my tongue, so he thought that that’s what it was. It turns out that I had adenocarcinoma of the submandibular salivary gland. I believe I was the first child or one of the first children, at least, to be diagnosed with that type of cancer. It’s way more common in adults. 

At 25, I had a basal cell removed from my face. So I joke that I’ve had cancer about 2 and a half times because a basal cell, it’s technically skin cancer. 

Pre-diagnosis

I would feel better on the antibiotic for a little bit after, and then the issues would just come back. Nothing seemed to make them go away permanently. As for my sister, she had done a round of vaccine for her stomach issues and they had just gone away. 

I went and saw a GI because I was having trouble finishing going to the bathroom. I would go to the bathroom and I would feel like there was more that needed to come out, but I would have to sit and wait for a little bit for it to come out. 

So the GI did an exam and he said, everything seems fine, but, I’d like to do a colonoscopy to rule out Crohn’s or colitis. And then he also did a bacterial overgrowth test. 

So I got a call from my insurance that said that he was leaving the network the next week, and that I would have to find a different GI to do the colonoscopy. So I got a new referral to another GI. He looked at everything that the previous GI had done. He said, you have IBS with bacterial overgrowth because I tested positive for SIBO.

Then he wanted me to take an antibiotic every night for 6 months to a year. And what he said to me after that was, this is what I think is wrong with you, and I’m never wrong. I didn’t like that answer. 

My work in TV keeps me filming about 8 months a year. Every hiatus in the spring, I would go see another doctor. So I got another referral to another GI. I went and met with her in Santa Monica and she said, I don’t think it’s Crohn’s or colitis, but we can rule it out by doing a colonoscopy. But she also said, well, you aren’t having symptoms right now, so let’s just wait until your symptoms come back. And it was my first time as an adult that I went an entire year without any symptoms. 

That all changed on March 1, 2019, when I was at work. I will never forget it. 

It was a Friday evening. I was standing in front of the house where we were going to film, and I felt like I had pulled a muscle in my side. And I remember saying to one of my friends at work, like, it feels weird because I didn’t do anything that would have caused that feeling. And from that day onwards, I started getting shooting pains from my left side towards my middle, and they would become more frequent and more painful as the weeks went on. 

On March 11th, I was at work and I started to just feel ill as well. I took the next day off and went to see another GI. He did all these different tests, and he noticed that my blood work from January, from my physical, revealed that I had very low B12 and very low albumin, and nobody had followed up to do additional testing. 

The GI said, you know, we’re just going to run some tests. I would like to do a colonoscopy. You probably have a mild Crohn’s and colitis. So the same thing that everyone else sort of thought was or wasn’t what I had. 

Okay, well, I have a month left of work. Is it possible to do it when that’s when that’s done? And he said, oh yeah, of course, no problem. I said, as long as it’s not life threatening. He said, oh no, nothing like that. 

The next day, I woke up in the most pain I’d ever been in—I was in so much pain that I could not stand up straight—and I drove 35 miles to Santa Clarita to go to work. But everyone at work was like, you have to go home. 

My doctor called me and he said the inflammation levels in my blood were so high. He said, you have to have a colonoscopy on Friday (this was a Wednesday). I was talking to my parents and my dad, who’s a pediatrician, decided he was going to fly down because of how much pain I was in. 

My GI initially had told me to start taking fiber on that Tuesday. And then on Wednesday, when he called me, he said, don’t take fiber, switch to Miralax instead. My first bowel movement post-Miralax on that Thursday was covered in blood, and it was the first time I had ever had blood in my stool.

I reached out to him and he said, that’s perfectly normal. It’s what we would expect because of the levels of inflammation in your blood. I wouldn’t worry about it, he said. 

Discovery and Diagnosis

 And my dad whispered, it’s happening all over again. Because my mom had non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma of the bowel. It wasn’t connected through cancer, but it was in roughly the same location. 

And then my doctor called me back, he was able to get me a bed. Just go to UCLA, he said. I packed and we drove over.

We arrived at UCLA and got settled. The next morning, they brought me in for the colonoscopy.

If you have a blockage in your colon, no matter what stage you’re at, if it’s bad enough, they’ll do an emergency surgery and just take out that part of the colon right away. They were successful and were able to place a stent. 

The next day I met Dr. Agopian, who ended up being my liver surgeon. He had a refreshingly different approach from the others I had spoken with. He walked into my room by himself, sat down at the screen, and turned it to face me. 

Dr. Agopian pulled up my scan and he said, you have three spots on the left side of your liver and one on the right. 

Dr. Agopian said, I want to take out the whole left side of your liver and this spot on the right, it’s right on the edge. We’ll just cut it out. And then he looked at me and he said, let’s cure this thing. And he added, well, we’ll do a few rounds of chemo and then if it’s the same or better, you can have surgery.

Reaction to My Colon Cancer Diagnosis

And we get to UCLA and headed to my room. The woman said that they were going to do a biopsy and colonoscopy in the morning, and so they were going to do 3 tap water enemas that night. My dad went to find lodgings for the night and my stepmom was going to fly in the next morning. So I was all alone in the room.

I just remember sitting in that hospital room and basically knowing already that I had stage 4 colon cancer. It’s a very strange thing because no one had confirmed anything yet and I didn’t have a biopsy, but I already knew.

For a period of time, I was explaining what was going on, but the minute that I would have to say I have stage 4 colon cancer, I would just lose it. And so I didn’t tell. A few people, like those from the show that I was working on, showed up in ways that they didn’t have to. They had always been extremely loving and caring towards me.

But Dr. Agopian made a real difference. He was the first person that sat down and explained things in a way that was practical and straightforward. Okay, here’s plan A, here’s plan B, here’s plan C. These are the options. These are the things that we can do. And I felt so disconnected from everything that was going on until this man walked down and just said, this is what’s happening. This is what we’re planning on doing. 

He for me was like a light, like a beacon of hope that nobody else presented. And I held on to that so tightly because nobody was giving me anything else.

Treatment

Chemotherapy

I had my first round of chemo on April 2019 and ended in November 2019. I took oxaliplatin and xeloda.

After that, I did a scan. I had been told, if my scans were good, we would cancel the chemo appointment. If they’re bad, then I’d need to stay and do another round of chemo. 

And I had asked my doctor because the liver surgeon had said it just has to be the same or better. And I said, how often is it the same or better? He said 75%. I think it was 70 or 75% are the same or better on oxaliplatin and xeloda after three rounds. But I was taken aback when I got a phone call and was told that my appointment had been cancelled, my doctor was taking a leave of absence, and I had to find another doctor while he was gone.

So I paged my nurse practitioner, and I said, well, I want my scan results. And she said, oh, your colon cancer tumor, you can’t even really see it anymore. And all your spots shrank. 

I then called the liver surgeon’s office, Dr. Agopian’s office, and was told that he wouldn’t be back until Wednesday. But then I got a phone call back and was told that I was going to have surgery and that I needed to meet Dr. Agopian and my colon surgeon on Friday. 

I immediately called my friend who lived in Hawaii, and I scheduled a flight to Hawaii on Saturday, right after the meeting with the doctors, because I wanted to have a bikini vacation before they cut into my stomach.

Surgery

So during the Friday meeting, we scheduled my surgery for July 1st of 2019. 

There was an initial concern about the date; my dad went, oh, it’s July 1st. It’s the day in every hospital where everybody moves up a level. A lot of people don’t have surgery on July 1st. But it turns out that none of the doctors assigned to me would be affected, which was great.

I underwent the surgery as planned on July 1, 2019.

Remission

One or two weeks later, I went in for my follow up appointment with Dr. Agopian. He came in and he said, is anyone giving you your pathology yet? I said, no. 

And he said, the cancer cells in your tumors, they’re all dead. At that point I’d had 3 rounds of chemo out of the 8 that I was supposed to have, and I just sort of went, oh, okay. 

And then a day later, I came in to see my colon cancer surgeon and he walked in and goes, Agopian stole my thunder. And they were like so excited. But again, my oncologist was gone and so I didn’t quite have that conversation. 

I went to a new oncologist and he’s going through my file like he hadn’t even looked at it yet. And he was just like, oh, this is good, this is good.

And then he goes, you’re in remission. I called my sister after and I was like, didn’t sink in and it didn’t feel real. And then finally when my oncologist came back and said, you know, they say NED, which is no evidence of disease. 

I finished my colon cancer treatment in November of 2019. I dropped the oxaliplatin because I had a allergic reaction on round 6 and broke out into hives. So I just did the xeloda for my last few rounds. 

I got scanned every 3 months, and then it went to 4 months. And on July 1st when I go in to see my oncologist, for my 5 year scans, I then get a say in how long we’ll have a discussion of how often we’re going to do the scans versus the Signatera, which is the blood test where they can test for tumor markers in your blood.

… you will not always feel [bad] because in the first round you don’t know when it’s going to end and you feel like it’s never going to end.

Lessons Elizabeth would like to share

Radical Hope

The Possibility of Death

I was just very practical about it. Like most people don’t survive a stage 4 diagnosis. The statistic I think is, 12 or 14% of stage 4 colon cancer patients are alive 5 years after their diagnosis.

If you are a stage 4 cancer patient and you are friends with other stage 4 cancer patients, most of them are going to die. That was a really hard thing to deal with. And then I also struggled a lot because people kept saying things like, you’re the strongest person I know. If anyone can beat it, you can. And every time someone would say that to me, I’d be like, oh, I’m definitely dying. 

It’s such a weird pressure because what if I die? Then have I let all these people down? Was I not as strong as they thought I was? 

I’m not a warrior. It’s not a battle. It’s a disease. I didn’t sign up for this. I’m not a soldier. I think Norm McDonald said, um, when you die, the cancer dies with you.

I always appreciated that because I think that people mean well, again. But, like, I’m not a warrior. I’m not out fighting. I’m on my couch watching Parks and Recreation, trying not to throw up. 

Putting up a strong front

If I am miserable on top of how terrible it is, what’s the point then? So I’m going to try to have the best time, like you’re going to try to make the best out of a bad situation. And it’s hard to do. 

But I had incredible people that stepped up and came and took care of me, and there was so much good that I got to experience. 

Reaching out, giving back

I recently donated my hair. I did it when I was diagnosed, also because with colon cancer, with the main chemo, you don’t lose your hair. But I was so overwhelmed with all of the love and the gifts and the things that were coming to me. I donated my hair after my first round of chemo, and then just 5 years later, I donated it again. 

Any time that I felt like I could give back in any way, that was really important.

People are nice to you because you have cancer. Everyone seemed to go out of their way to offer things. And I think that’s also the other thing, it was really difficult for me to ask for specific things. 

So everybody stopped checking in on me and it was like, oh, because everyone said, I don’t want to bother you. And I just would say, it’s not about like telling someone you’re thinking of them or, hey, I’m going to stop by with, you know, X, Y, or Z. I think those are sort of things that are super helpful.

And for me to be able to share as a stage 4 patient, to give hope to other stage 4 patients, that there’s someone in front of them who is going through it, who went through it somewhat recently and is okay. And that can be a little bit of pressure of like, I get nervous that if I do have a recurrence, I’m somehow letting everybody down. 

It feels like a very strange space to live in. But again, things like this. I’m so grateful to be able to share my story with other people who will be able to watch this and know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, or that there are things that they can do to help themselves.

I think that everyone’s experiences are going to be different. The fact that colon cancer is now the number 1 cancer death for men 20 to 40, and it’s the number 1 cancer death for men and women combined 20 to 40. And we still aren’t doing colonoscopies for people. I think that that’s the big thing that needs to be addressed. 

Access to colonoscopies, access to Cologuard, access to things that are clearly needed because the number of people that reach out to me, women in their 20s on Tech Talk who will message me and say, I made my doctor do a colonoscopy, they said they weren’t going to find anything. They did a colonoscopy. They removed precancerous polyps and they said, you saved my life. And I think that the price of a colonoscopy, the access to health care, all of these things, it’s going to cause so much more issues because the number is rising. It’s something environmental. My geneticist says they don’t know what it is. 

And for people that were born in the 80s and 90s, I just think that access to colonoscopies needs to be a bigger thing on everybody’s mind. I will also say that I did call my doctor’s office of the gentleman who said, this is what I think is wrong with you, and I’m never wrong. I spoke to the office manager because I wanted to make sure that he knew that he was wrong.

Mental health struggles

And then finally I made it through all the different doctors. I was feeling suicidal and was really struggling. It was really upsetting that no one was sort of listening or paying attention and feeling really guilty because I survived. I couldn’t live the way that I was feeling, the way that my brain felt. I couldn’t sustain that and I felt like nobody was paying attention. To anything other than their specialized thing. And so I had guilt on top of everything else. My brain just felt like it was fighting me all the time. 

And the mental health aspect of chemo as well, which my friend Megan called black cloud days when you were having a bad day. I was talking to someone and I kept saying, it’s okay to have a black cloud day. And her husband kept saying, but we’re always going to look for the sun. And I was like, but you have to allow yourself to sit in what feels bad sometimes. 

The better we felt, the worse we felt mentally during our cycles, because the better you felt physically, the closer you were to going back and having another round. You physically felt better, you were able to do more things, but you knew that the better you felt, the worse you were about to feel. And so I think that the structure of how you can help somebody who’s going through chemo and everybody is going to need something different.

Resources that can help

I think that whatever little thing you can hang on to and help you find your people, you should explore. 

ColonTown is a great resource on Facebook. And TikTok has become another big thing for me. I created a TikTok account to spread awareness for colon cancer and young people, but also the idea of struggling with mental health after your cancer finishes because nobody talks about it. There isn’t as much support for that. There’s support when you’re going through it.

UCLA has free psychiatry, psychology services. You can get a therapist, and I had a great one. Not enough attention is paid to your mental state after your treatments are finished. And so that’s always been a really big thing for me, which is, people say, oh, but you’re better now. And it’s like, you’re never fully better. It never goes away.

I should also say that I craved oranges, and I learned later that oranges are an anti-nausea food, and pregnant women drink them and people on boats when they’re getting seasick.

Solutions

I’m going on a beach vacation with my sister and her friends, next week to celebrate five years, I have my scans on the 28th.

I’ll meet with my oncologist on the first, and it all seems like a fever dream, because when you first get diagnosed and when you’re in it, it feels so far away.

“Snowboarding”

When I went in for my first round of chemo, I sat next to a man who was a couple years older than me. His colon cancer had spread to his esophagus. And I was so scared and so unsure of what was coming and what to expect. And he was on his 5th round.

He sat there and walked me through everything that I could expect. He talked about the cold symptom called broken glass syndrome. If you eat or drink anything, even walking too quickly, the air that you inhale is too cold and it can set off different things. He just talked me through everything in such a gentle, sweet way. 

I have shared with every single person that I have talked to about this because a lot of people reach out on TikTok or on Instagram, I have many conversations with strangers who have just been diagnosed, or have friends or family that have just been diagnosed, and I walk them through everything like he did for me. 

What he said was, on my good weeks, I go snowboarding. And so in my first round when I was having my worst day and I felt like I couldn’t do anything and I couldn’t move, and I felt so terrible in my head, I just kept repeating, he went snowboarding.

He did not go snowboarding feeling like this. So you will not always feel like this because in the first round you don’t know when it’s going to end and you feel like it’s never going to end. And so I just kept saying in my head, he went snowboarding. And that to me was the hope that I would get better.

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